Ongezellig

>>129978
It's true

>>129979
geg i just read both and misery is already better ev&doe its only 2 chapters kekaroo redditroons really cant write KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK

>I am going to write something that will speak volumes to own those heckin' talented chuds!
>writes the most snca brimmy fucking disjointed string of text that no one likes ever conceived to zelligkind
>OH I SEE HOW IT IS, CLEARLY I AM GETTING HATEBOMBED! YOU SHOULD ONLY SAY NICE THINGS ABOUT WORKS THAT I ASKEDFIRST TO GET CRIT ON! WHY IS THERE SO MUCH HATE IN THIS COMMUNITY?

>>129986
I've read enough comparative fanfics on 'O3 to grasp what kind of content Ziggers put out (Ice Cold Steam Engine, Hopes and Nightmares, When the Days Got Brighter in Amsterdam) to say that these people are writing for the sake of it and for the kudos and the fanduels in the reppies and whatnot
<'O3 'ace
Then today I scrolled for a bit to find more long form zontent because I fucking hate oneshots then I saw this and promptly reminded myself to never visit the site again

>>129999
the authors name used to be ibelieveinlolis so yeah theyre a niggerpedo (and they also say nigga a lot so theyre definitely a shitskin 4cuck)

>>129999

>>129999
>that fanfiction
just seeing this made my fucking heart sink

>>130007
no they're affiliated with 'tok niggers I saw screenshots from a tiktok comment section where some nufag said that he loved the fanfiction and that he knows the author

>>129999
DOGTOOOOOOOOES WHAT IS THIS

>>130008
Ayo new dweller?

>>130016
OLDEST dweller

>>130012
still shitskinned thoughie

>>129994
>hey guys! here's my fanfiction!
<here's my wall of text with what's wrong with it
>okay! thanks for telling me-
^NOOOOOOOOOOOO! YOU CAN'T GIVE CRITICISM! YOU NEED TO BE HECKIN WHOLESOME KENAU 100 CHUNGUS ALL THE TIME! THINKING ABOUT THE MEDIA YOU CONSOOM MAKES YOU A HECKIN PROBLEMATIC RUDE BIGOT! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>130019
@zrok is this true?

>>129976
was the description changed? i dont remember there being anything about soei in the the description i remember it only being about Maya

>>130085
Yes writerkek also dialed back xhis hatred of mental facility staff geg

>>130027
@zrok please answer

>>130088
im actually glad that was dialed back because the new description saying they know little "beyond the bare minimum" feels far more realistic instead of
>le evil hospital staff that are le evil because... BECAUSE THEY ARE OKAY?! FEEL BAD!

>>130089
<This statement appears to be mostly true.

>>130098
@zrok can you unpack the statement?

>>130091
trve
one note evil is not interesting

>>129166

>>130458
This is why I don't touch that site with a thrembo feet long pole, I don't need to ruin my day by exposing myself to utter brimstone

>>130459
literally like one good one (this one) https://archiveofourown.org/works/76552636?view_full_work=true and apparently its written by a lazy faggot or something (idk its good or not i didnt read it, it's just made by a former chud so it's automatically gemmy)

>>130461
It’s been put on indefinite hiatus out of spite if that matters btw

>>130464
Typical just like my life is vantablack coal out of spite from the jews

>>130464
we should know at this point that a cancelled gem is better that ongoing coal (ongezellig is the literal example of this)

>>130467
ev&doe its not cancelled thoughie

>>130467
>zaryan makes the most convincing argument for suicide

>>130458
>>129166
this gave me a realistic panic attack

>>130471
me too, but it was probably less realistic and glorified a bit

Yeah, Mymy's more reminiscent of Alvin from his 1960s show (both serve as an "annoyance" to the others) or the average leading Hanna-Barbera character (Yogi Bear, Quick Draw McGraw, etc who would always make funny quips) than anything related to how the others were developed

>>130599
who is this for?

>>130600
The OP

>>130599
trvke that made all the mymycux seethe

Apparently 3GoyGlowers, after sperging about A Search for Maya, uploaded something new o algo:

https://archiveofourown.org/works/83433391/chapters/219792796

>>130847
Incomprehensible story o algo

>>129107
yeah not a lot of amateurs put any characterization into background characters so i was pretty surprised by that

>>130599
No I don't agree
>>130602
Falsenvke shitstone that nomymy cared about
>>128880
The trvth is OP Mymy is the single best character of Ongezellig and maybe even all of fiction. Don't believe me? Well what if I told you that I would never even consider re-watching Ongezellig once and I would definitely not obsess over it for years if it werent for Mymy. Mymy is the perfect character, she has captivated my mind and interest for years now I think about her every day. She has the perfect design, a charming and cute personality and she is chuddy. Only nophono would care about Ongezellig after all these years if Mymy wasn't a character, this is simply the truth that you are too afraid to acknowledge. Mymy outperforms any other character every thought of in fiction and you know this, Mymy is the sole reason Ongezellig had anymore screentime than like 5 minutes. Mymy is the sole reason any more Deels than the first one was made. You know this OP, stop lying. For the betterment of all our lives, stop living in denial, stop lying to yourself and to others. And (you) if you're reading this you know that Mymy FVCKING VVON you'll realize one day if you haven't. Mymy won, Mymy's back hurts after carrying Ongezellig for years. I would never even remember the other girl's names if it weren't for Mymy that's how much she shines, TOTAL MYMY VIKKKTORY

>>130894
you need to stop taking stimulants, adhd isnt real you are just getting high and its ruining your brain

>>130896
I don't have ADHD I have Assburgers
>You need to stop taking stimulants
things that will never happen

>>130894
not reading that so you're a shitskin niggerpedo that wants to rape mymy

>>130894
>not in Dutch / niet in het nederlands
geg

>>130901
I wish this video was real

>>130902
>>130903
Obsessed demoralising samefag go fuck yourself

>>130901
Don't scare me with these videos, one of these days it's going to happen though

>>130905
Nee,je houdt gewoon niet van Mymy, terwijl je weet dat ze van het Nederlands houdt

>>130911
Ik studeer Nederlands thuis, ik ben DTL (Dutch Third Language)

>>130920
Nederlands is mijn tweede taal. ik heb het geleerd omdat mijn Oma het sprak

>>129166
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG!!!! THIS NIGGER GOONS TO ZELLIG 'P GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG!!!

>>131119
Yuricucks…

>>131119
Hey did this pedo rate it 5 stars?

>>131122
says it right there

>>131123
Dox 'em
>>131119
Also anything with an M or A rating is goonbait

>>131119
atleast it isn't agugu 'p or the Maya goon animation

>>131119
jsid

>>129916
updated with modern profiles or something

>>131461
also Maya has a 5.6 average which is 0.1 above passing GEG

>>129219
i think this is xer idealizing the past and not an actual memory

>>131461
can someone whos esl as hell translate this please

It says that maya is the ebodiment of the "sixes culture" (5.5 is the minimum to not fail and people want 6 to stay safe, basically saying she's doing the bare minimum to not fail her classes)

Mymy is a megalomaniac with a napoleoncomplex and the teacher says she really hates the kid. But she's also weak against bottles

>>128880
>Bullshit. Have you ever met a humble 8 year old?
>I sincerly doubt that any child would be concerned about something as insignificant to them as time
i think the point is that coco was forced to mature very fast due to the death of her parents so naturally she's going to be more humble and less childish than the rest even if she's very "naive". yes its a tired excuse but it makes sense for her character
>>What I want to be when I grow up: Very old
this is just a completely normal thing for a kid to say when asked this question, you're reading too much into this
>I highly doubt she would've gotten a computer this young with a mother like Soei.
but she did. also we dont know soei enough to jump to assumptions like that, it could be the family computer for all we know
>Again, I highly doubt that Maya wouldn't play sports with a mother like Soei.
but she didnt. and again, we dont know enough about soei + not EVERY parent makes their kid do sports, especially if their kid is a girl
>I doubt that any child would have any concept of "paying attention" or even know that they're bad at it.
she most likely wrote this after multiple scoldings from teachers or her parents, its not out of this world for a kid to be insecure about what they get scolded over
>>I really don't like: School
yeah this could have been much more interesting i agree
>What child hasn't loved going to an amusement park? An Aquarium? A Zoo?
READ NIGGA READ. it says vacation COUNTRY. maya doesnt have one because she's likely never been to another country at that age unlike the others who are both foreigners
>I'm positive there are other things she wants more, like her cat.
yeah what the fuck was massa thinking here
>>What I want to be: I dunno
again, relatively normal thing for a kid to say when asked this question

you seem to think all children act in a very specific way while forgetting that the 'lig girls were never normal children to begin with, the three (yes even mymy) went through a lot from a very young age and thats what makes them interesting to begin with

>>132738
I do hope he followed my advice of more show, less tell

>>132829
Marge where was he telling? Am I retarded?

>>132830
We had a productive exchange with one another, and he seemed moved. I'm actually glad I was able to help him AND myself because I also needed to follow my own advice geg
<MISERY space
https://archiveofourown.org/comments/1180150161

>>132833
WHY ARE THERE 242 COMMENTS GEG

>>132833
he'll definetly apply your lessons, though maybe inconsistently at first as he is still new

>>132835
I want him to do well, he has so much potential. Compared to other fiktie writers, he stands out simply because he's willing to be rawer. Other suicide fics handle major character deaths so cliche-ly, that him writing something more original and grounded stands out because he stays true to his vision of telling us (so far) of a maya who wanted to kill herself and a coco who could not imagine her sister in any way besides what she thought she was

>>132837
tsmt. death and reborn made me really angry with how unrealistic it was, and I imagine that this story will (hopefully) do the "Maya tries to kill herself" trope justice

>>132837
That's because the fics are being written by cordtroons LARPers who have never ever experienced the incel life, so like all things, even their portrayal of suicide comes off as childish and unrealistic

>>132842
not everyone with depression is an incel thoughie, but still tsmt

>>132880
Depression in truecels and
>depression
Are two different things though

>>132842
ive noticed that writerfail seems to have restraint
he didnt explain as to why Maya tried to kill herself, because that's not relevant yet.
<MISERYspace
he also seems to trust the audience to understand things, and SHOWS more than he tells (though this is inconsistant)
he didn't write the immediate aftermath, because he just had to SHOW how tired Coco as a means of TELLING how exhausting it was
he didn't tell us how far the school is from the hospital, because Coco's calves spasming AND the nurse's shocked reaction SHOW that it is really far away

>>132837
call me retarded but I never understood what made a story “grounded”

>>132931
If it seems logical and like it could actually happen
A story about dragons and a fantasy world can still feel grounded if the story follows a logic and doesn't pull cards out of its ass to explain why a certain thing is possible/impossible or when the tone goes completely off the rails

>>132935
Makes sense

>>128909
I wonder if this was the brown shooter

>>133342
No I'm still here, fuck you

>>133342
The year is 2026 and Zaryans are shooterinvestigating random posters

>>132833
I checked the comment thread and writerfail asked you another question btw

>>132837
>willing to be rawer
I think >>129173 sums it up best tbh. All of the shit said in Death and ReBorn is so forgettable because it feels fake. This hospital scene is meant to be emotional in both, but writerfail’s works so much better because it treats it the way it is, doesn’t hold back, all while characterizing Coco by showing her idealization of a Maya that either
A. Never existed
Or
B. Hasn’t existed in a long time
And that’s what makes it so engaging.
Death and ReBorn on the other hand suffers from the fact that everyone sounds the fucking same, and everything is delivered in the most bland and boring way possible.
Even though writerfail isn’t exactly consistent, scenes like this show that he has oodles of potential and just needs more time to learn the fundamentals and develop consistency. I’m confident that the end of his story will be far better than the beginning

>being writerfail

>>133614
What does this even mean

>>128919
Apparently “negerzoenen” are the names of the candies those things are, so Massa wasn’t being racist, he was mocking a racist name

>>128880
mymys purpose was comedic relief o algo. we saw how shit mayas sweet sixteen was and that was primarily because there was no comedic relief

>>133624
maya's 16 was shit because massa can't into comics.

>>133625
I personally liked it because it was self condemning doomer slop with no good ending whatsoever

>>133624
No. Comedic relief would’ve made it worse, you mongrel.

>>133707
>>133625
>>133624
Sweet 16, while believable, was way too dark of a tone for a show that was going to be about coming of age, growing up, and learning to deal with your deep seated problems. I feel the same way about Maya's Diary.
If Massa was instead going to revel in hopelessness and nihilism as his character development, then I'm glad the show never continued.

>>132833
writerfail asked another question btw, if that matters

>>133727
Ongezellig was going to be a nihilistic gem for nihilistic fags like me and I wouldn't want it any other way

>>133734
Nihilism is gay

>>133734
Hold on you weren't even denying that it's faggotry

>>132837
idk why these writers feel the need to hold back tbh, it makes no sense

>>133737
>>133738
When I discovered it, I liked that Maya was a complete loser with zero redeeming qualities and when the ending dropped and she denies the olive branch given to her, it made me feel good about myself (like a faggot). Basically she was literally me and I liked wallowing in self pity

>>133744
Don't do that, there's a million reasons why you shouldn't, it's difficult to think there's no meaning, because we get proven wrong every day

>le positive nihilism

>>133744
based
we are the real target audience of zellig. everyone saying "durr doomer/nihilist fag" is blinded by their own ideology and completely miss the message of the show

>>133744
Maya just needs to get out of her own head, make some friends, and do something instead of idling her time away. It's a very tough first step, but one that at least one sister will push her to make.
It's why I adore Coco, she had an awful hand, was forced to flee her homeland for her own safety, but instead of wallowing in self-pity, she lives out her life as her parents wanted her to. Her parents would want her to be happy and have lots of friends, and to carry on their memory, she does this. I've seen people in my life deal with devastating loss at a young age, and most recoil back and never recover, but those that do are the toughest people I know.
Coco is a pressure made Diamond.