No.127921[Last 50 Posts]
Hoi, Zaryans, it's me, Zaryan! I'd like to tell you guys I've been working in my free time from college on an Ongezellig adaptation, NOT a fiktie, and I will publish it here once I make some final proofreading, a promotional artwork, and it's cover. It's totally OC, I've been working on it nonstop, and it's been driving me insane ofzo
<leddit 'ace
Here's from my preface for it:
>This work—novelette, fanfic, chamber-piece, literary adaptation of an online web series—whatever it is of zoiets. It doesn’t fit in any of them because that’s the spirit of what I’m adapting from.
I had two premises in mind when it came to an Ongezellig adaptation:
1. What if the Bottle Smack in the Pilot had consequences?
2. How do I make a story out of it?
<'igle 'ogle 'ace
Let me know if you have questions about what it is. I will answer them honestly without spoling much o algugu
No.127923
>>127921Zaryan I kneel, I can't even find the time to make gems between classes and you pull this party saving gemerald out, makes me wish that ROY site was still up so it could be properly put on something more official
No.127927
>>127921I have questions
What is Koos and yfke doing?
Do they play any part in the story?
Does it have color?
If it has a complex background, will there be little secrets in it?
No.127928
>>127921zarty saving gem incoming
No.127931
>>127927It's a chamber play, just like Ongezellig was, but Vera is the focus, the deuteragonist is Rens. I also invented my own character, Vera's colleague called Loes. They are the only three characters. The sisters are not really significant to the story, not in the traditional sense
No.127932
>>127927As for little secrets, very much yes. Colours, the promotional teaser I posted is a hint of the themes I've written, but the other promotional artwork and the cover will be coloured
No.127935
>>127931>>127932Thanks,
also when would it be released?
And when does it occur on the timeline (you could add dates)?
And I want to ask what Loes looks like but I think I'm fine with waiting.
Anyways thanks for the info sound really zemmy, I can't wait to read.
<peeb spaceAnd side note what is Yfke and Koos doing during the novellette, off screen, this question is completely SNCA but I'm just wondering.
No.127948
>>127947fake ass namefags where all they all coming from
No.127949
Nigga saying this as a robot coming from the BBC factory kys
No.127951
>>127947>>127948This vvill happen
No.127954
>>127947The gemerald to save the 'party is to make a comic hosting site so that all the good comics (like fisheye's) have a place to stay
No.127956
>>127955No not a booru, it's an idea I had a while back though I am seeing if it's viable
No.128302
Update: I already have a preview set for the first two prologue-like chapters for the novella-thing. But I will only post it in conjuction with a drawing from zours zruly of a scene from the chapters. And probably a character sheet of what seems to be my own ZOC Loes de Vox.
>>127935 And I do have a surprise for you in the main work
No.128340
>>128322Please take your meds before I report you for disturbing the public soy order
No.128685
Aight, guys, it's me. I have no illustrations yet because I was busy with the annotating and the other bullshit for the main spine.
<waar spaceBut here is a preview. Enjoy?
<waar spacehttps://files.catbox.moe/aa1hiu.epub<waar spaceFor whatever reason, the 'arty does not accept EPUB uploads. Do not be suspicious ofzo
No.128686
There are annotations to help a zigga out. One of my cold reviewers told me they were struggling with switching between tabs for the Dutch phrases so I figured adding annotations for anything that needed translating.
No.128699
>>128685What kind of file is this I can't open it did I just download a virus
No.128702
>>128699Oh yeah, if you're on mobile, download Moon Reader. PC, either Thorium or Calbre. It's an eBook
No.128703
>>128702Can't wait for the unbothered zelligxister who converts it to a White file extension
No.128708
Idk where to upload the full thing. Is AO3 an option?
No.128766
OP, are you dutch? By mere happenstance. Not implying anything or something. Just asking.
No.128772
>>128766OP here. I'm gay.
No.128773
>>128763>Vera rejects to state her opinion on AI because it's too trendyKeyed
The first part also felt like reading some poem I don't know why
No.128775
>>128773I'm glad you liked it! I will release the full product somewhere. I'm actually composing a cover as we speak, and some promotional material
No.128776
>>128775With what time Zaryan I barely get the time to do the things I want these days
No.128969
>>128968I had an idea where we could put all of these little comics and things together though it does require the sacrifice of money
No.128970
>>128969Best I can do is chapter/scene illustrations. They might come, they might not, no guarantee
No.128971
>>128970Not saying (You) have to pay, it's just a tricky project of mine
No.129067
I've decided. I'm now gonna upload the absolutely-not-a-fiktie on AO3 but I'm still on the waiting list. Can any of you kind Zaryans who have AO3 accounts help me? I need an invite code to skip the queue because I've been on the waiting list for at least three to four days now, and I don't get confirmation for another week
No.129073
>>129067A03 jannies are the absolute worst on that you'll have to wait for the email
No.129088
>>129073I figured it out. I forgot itch io exists
No.129097
>>129088just put it on AO3 when your account comes in
No.129110
>>129097I did some more digging. I don't think I can upload it there since my novella heavily depends on a dark mode inversion trick
No.129155
>>129110Marge what's that
No.129156
>>129097there is dark mode in AO3 its just not default (though its more grey than black)
No.129243
>>129156For the PC version of my work, I'm just gonna say there's a hidden aspect as to why the work defaults to dark mode
No.129358
I may have unwittingly shot myself in the foot here. I haven't even published the full work publicly and I'm already writing a prequel.
<waar space
Zaryan, ze are zo zucked
No.129360
>>129358It's like Lidly starting a thrembomillion projects
No.129361
>>129358it’s a symptom of ADHD to be constantly moving from one project to another without finishing any, so you might wanna speak to a psychologist about that
No.129362
>>129361Oh, I've finished it. I just haven't published it publically. It's currently unlisted
No.129363
>>129361>zaryan is autisticracebait found on an amerimutt's post
No.129366
>>129363>autism is ADHDniggertard
No.129367
>>129362I meant to say USUALLY without finishing any. Usually if they enjoy it enough they do finish it, but they quickly move to the next thing
No.129368
>>129366>have you just misgendered my mental illness?nococo cares
No.129369
>>129368I’m just saying you’re an idiot for thinking xheyre the same thing yes I am obsessed
No.129371
>>129367In my case, I'm moving onto the next thing because
1. I genuinely built a structure that makes a prequel possible. Think Saul's throwaway line that eventually paved way for his own series to be made
2. I just think it's fun. I'd post the Itch now but it still feels naked without a cover photo
No.129373
>>129370ADD is an old term for ADHD-
wait a minute
your baiting me…
No.129985
>>129983'ller's influence made stan a campus writer, fucking hell. gemmy doe
No.129989
>>129985It's very much Stan. The edits are Mymy's. They're two peas in a pod when it comes to the Schoolcourant
No.129990
>>129989You guys down to expand on the lore Massa couldn't be assed to continue?
No.129992
>>129983Make this image say some gemmy copypasta like we did with Coco's newspaper
No.129993
>>129992Probably in the next part yeah
No.129998
>>129990I could. Iets Waars isn't expansion per se. More like a complicated adaptation/continuation
No.130020
>>127921will Maya have anything to do with the story whatsoever
No.130022
>>130021has your ao3 account been approved yet
No.130023
>>130021rens is an efteling influencer, that's pretty much what all massa had left for us in the lore so it'd be real interesting to see how you can expand on that. get creative zaryan, but most importantly don't quit
No.130024
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>>130023Oh yes, it is a crucial aspect of his character. I'm still kinda hesitant of publishing the itch here (my AO3 did get approved but I would rather just use my own platform) because I'm still proofreading and composing a cover. Patience o algugu
<waar spaceanyway here's coloured lineart of Vera's colleague, Loes de Vos
No.130025
>>130024oh my, can't wait for all the zeldeenegroids get a hold of this and make p*rn out of it. zoot should just open the club already so we can restrict those faggots to view whatever we got working on
No.130026
>>130023doing Massa is a real problem
No.130048
>>130023A what influencer sorry I am DSL
No.130066
Mymy becomes retarded
No.130355
Should I just post the first three chapters on A03 and when I am finally done proofreading the main text, publish the full link to my itch in the author notes? Been considering this
No.130356
>>130355Release it the way you want it to be read. If you think splitting it up like that would negatively affect the reading experience just wait and release it how you think is best.
No.130358
>>130355Yes but not only AO3 so the power tripping jantards don't just delete the only (1) copy
No.130360
>>130356itch thinks my page is a scam lmfao. though i could use AO3 to advertise the work by using the first three chapters as a tease to the rest of the thing, which will link it to my itch with the full EPUBs
>>130358yeah. since my ao3 account also got approved, i could also make oneshots too
No.130379
>>130360just post it to AO3 we need more gems there with writerfail apparently on break or something like that
No.130380
>>130379Flood the A03 with chuddy gems evendoe I have never ever used AO3 to read 'zellig stuff because it was all coal years ago and now it's antimatter
No.130385
>>130380trve writerfail is our savior o algo, bringing gems back to the coal mines of zoiets
No.130400
>>130385Evendoe he had a massive seethe episode or however I didn't read it at all
No.130490
>>130489
Heil Hitler, will you be publishing it in e-book format?
No.130491
>>130490I deleted the post because I'm now contemplating on whether or not I will either just post the entire work on AO3 or just post the teaser chapters like I said. My eBook format has so much more going on for it that AO3 can only justify with the notes at the beginning and the end. But yes, here is the first three chapters:
https://archiveofourown.org/works/83453951/chapters/219851911 No.130492
>>130491I obviously want to post the eBook. AO3 is more like exposure. IDK Zaryans, I'm in a rut
No.130493
>>130492E-book is better than clittyO3, though don't choose a SNCA website nobody knows about
No.130495
>>130493I'm still gonna post the full thing on AO3. I'll take any exposure I can get. The itch can be advertised elsewhere. I'll also post the link to that here shortly
No.130511
I've posted everything. Enjoy, Zaryans.
No.130514
>>130513You are a gift from God;
Will you also be publishing it in ebook format?
No.130516
>>130513Perfect reading material for me to read while being all alone on the staircase during lunch break, yes I like Maya
No.130532
>>130511I’ve read it once but it’s so dense, descriptive, and loaded with dutchness I want to read it again before I can discuss it intelligently. It’s very good but I’ll have more to say than that.
No.130535
>>130532Is it filled to the grim with dutchness?
No.130665
>>127921what the hell is your AO3 pfp saar
No.130683
>>130680yeah but what is it
or what was it because it got changed
No.130685
>>130665SAAR WHY WAS YOUR LAST PFP PORN SAAR
No.130687
>>130685FYM PORN IT WAS OCCOAL AT WORST
No.130688
What profile picture marge
No.130689
can't believe you OP, why would you do such a thing…
No.130702
>>130690Should have made it about Yana since she's the face of Ongezellig
No.130732
Kinda bored now that I've posted the entir thing. The prequel I had in mind can wait for now. What if I wrote a oneshot where Maya gets to be happy for once
No.130734
>>130732What if you wrote the continuation of one more drink or however the fuck it was called
No.130737
>>130735>holy nu lvrk moar It's an old old 'fic where Maya becomes an alcoholic, and it was premium kino nothing better at the time, probably still is. But it was discontinued around Chapter 40 and NEVER finished, if someone has the heart to send the archive so you can also read it
No.130738
>>130732publish the ebook version that you talked about
No.130741
>>127921I see. Am not finding it anywhere I look but Idk, can a Zaryan who has it 'chived poast it ofzo
>>130738I will. Had a reading session with my friends with it and it also functioned as proofreading. I noticed a few mistakes in thr ePUbs that I then corrected. I don't plan on publishing them yet because I still don't have a cover
No.130743
>>130741I’m not a big fan of it because of the epke romance and the derailing into a bootlegging crime story but it’s here
>>104682 No.130962
>>130743read it. took me a while since i was reading another fic (A Faded Tulip; it's decent but also too cheesy). it sucks ass lol
No.130994
>>130743This shit sucks ass nigga
No.131340
The current version on AO3 is currently outdated, and I will only update it if I can finally decide I'm done with it somehow. 5000 new words over a span of two days after careful deliberation and research, and there still might be more.
No.131528
>>131526Why? I liked the name, I thought it fit well.
No.131544
>>131528My novella is heavily dependent on musical architecture. Iets Waars didn't make sense because it's a thesis statement, not a title
No.131831
can someophono become my copyedtior? I dont have a 'puter with me and i wont be having it with me for the foreseeable future.
<wraak space
my manuscript for both editions is 35k and 39k respectively, whereas my epubs are only 23k and 26k, so yeah, ive added way too much content that is characterisation since im now leaning heavily into the character study/documentary farce
<wraak space
Ill append my email to a reply if someone agrees. they will be credited in my work if they help o algo. that's the least i could do
No.131893
>>131885Sending Deels n Boers to this email recipient
No.131894
>>131885dis the nigga dat drew 'p
No.131904
>>131894Obsessed with goontaneous award
No.131906
>>131885i will email you questionable content
No.131907
>>131904all my niggas rape and kill goontaneouspedos
No.132275
>>132257why are you not using LaTeX
No.132278
>>132275I'm not on Linux, xister. I started this all on Calbire, I can't shift now
No.134559
>>134556reply to your emails you nigger
No.134562
>>134556thanks goontaneous, you earned your weekly masturbation to the zellig stylized OCs you made
No.134564
>>134556writing that much for months at a time tends to do that to you
No.134566
>>134556>>134564though if it's a constalation, it means you put in your all
No.134578
>>134564Im totally fine, it's just that I'm at a bottleneck with a chapter im writing because i feel it's necessary (includes sjef, koos, goof, yfke, and wiel). i always have progress daily, whether it's a hundred words or three thousand, it's just that i felt like drawing today
No.134580
>>134563I hate this variant SO much
No.134587
>>134580You hate its accurate portrayal of you, don’t you?
No.134588
>>134587No because it's a trace from a movie (Coalson alert) and ended up the same as 2_pointing_soyjaks except in a fraction of the time, therefore it's coal
No.134592
>>134588Cobson was a trace from a movie too doe
No.134593
>>134592I think traces from real people are better than from comics of zoiets
No.134594
>>134593if it's a gem it's a gem
No.134595
>>134594Notice Plier and Feral and Bernd, they work because they made fun of people that happened to have cartoonish characteristics
With Cobson when he originally unveiled he wasn't well-liked, the term HWABAG was only forced by those who liked him for him to be more accepted
Cobson's invention was a major turning point in soyculture
But for me personally traced 'jaks from real people work more becauze you could pinpoint who they make fun on IRL
No.134596
>>134595Decent observation. Something else to note is that Feral, Bernd, and Alicia are extremely easy to use as mockery. However, Cobson never caught on as a tool of mockery with the noted exception of Spadeson, but you could argue that putting an ace of spades on anyone is a good enough tool of mockery.
No.134599
>>134596It was only after he became a subvariant that he started catching on, but there was a catch. If you had to be a subvariant instead of standing on your own merits, maybe your 'jaks wasn't a gem in the first place.
No.134601
I might genuinely kill myself after I finish my novel
No.134602
attentionwhoring above me
No.134603
>>134601no goontaneous we need you for more zellig 'p gemmies
No.134604
>>134603thanks zaryan. nice to know my OC goonies are of some merit to yall. let's do this
No.134605
>>134603Why isn't this written in broken English
No.134870
>>134850She will be in the prequel or something
No.134925
>>134601any zaryans interested in group suicide this summer?
No.134931
>>134925i will only attend if maya will be there too
No.134936
>>134933my mossy mav 88 lookin mighty fine nowadays, you know they say that the taste is… Mind blowing!
No.134949
>>134936are you interested in doing a group suicide zaryan?
No.135731
tried to copy and paste a revised version of my preface here but apparently it has more >wordswordswords than the massa sucks at writing thread
No.135834
i think im gonna thrash this project
No.135835
>>135834what do you mean thrash?
No.135848
>>135835Probably trash
He said he didn’t really have a plan and wrote it freestyle, and maybe he wants to start over instead of trying to fix it
No.135849
>>135834>>135835hes abandoning it out of spite because of 'cord
No.135850
>>135849Goontaneous, growing to hate his non-vore fanbase, cancelled the book out of spite.
No.135911
>>135848i did not just freestyle this, i had a vision for the basic plot (vera meets a former student, hijinks ensue), then tried to make sure everything else connected. everything was already set in my mind what the story would be, it's just the execution of it where i was truly free.
>>135849>whyishelying.gif<revengespacei think i wanna cancel this project because i opened libreoffice writer yesterday to natively transport my manuscript from Gdocs to it (so I can transcribe it for the ebook format of my book) but then i got overwhelmed by how fucking difficult it looks. i looked at the forums how to use templates, and i tried LatEx too and it was all equally confusing. i typed almost everything in my book from my fucking phone on GDocs so I got bottlenecked with how to move forward ever since i made the epub and abandoned it and i'm here thinking i spent three months and counting wasting away on a project no one will really read. my beta reader did leave me comments but im yet to receive a full review of what he truly thinks, and that he told me he doesn't have a deadline for when it will truly come, that zaryan who wanted to be a beta reader when he emailed me flaked on me, and a third guy wanted to be one only if i was paying him for it (im broke as shit, also getting paid to read?? wtf). i still want to do one thing to keep myself motivated. later today, i'll go to a printershop with a copy of my manuscript to have it all printed in the flesh to see what i really got. hopefully seeing physical results of what i've gotten so far can still rile me up. at least i'd have something to show myself. i really don't want to feel this was all for nothing.
>>135851idfk what these nophonos are talking about, the 'cord thing is
irrelevant here, they just wanna make it about themselves for whatever reason
No.135913
>>135912>maya but WHOAH_20251208015649.png>coco…
No.135932
>>135911>no one will really readi hate to say that you might be right with this one
the issue isnt the quality of the writing, but who it's about. people read fanfic to look more into their favorite characters, in this case being the sisters. yeah vera is liked, but she's not exactly the character that people are dying to see.
not saying you have to scrap it, but if you want to start anew, writing about the sisters is probably your best bet
>all for nothingit clearly isn't, because even if it wasn't what you wanted it to be, you ended up learning a very valuable lesson of not biting off more than you can chew (which is a lesson you can only learn by doing exactly that)
No.135933
>>135932Vera is for people over the age of 30, which aren't many, it'd be worth to see how Vera develops AFTER the sisters eventually go their own way
No.135934
>>135933i personally think her interactions with the sisters would the the most interesting
No.135937
It's a Vera-centric novel. It wouldn't make a lot of sense to pigeonhole the sisters on the side to match a story that revolves around her.
Still, I had to concede by adding Maya and Coco in a flashback (my beta reader was, quote, 'soyjacking' when he finally got to that part that I can only interpret as fan service, and Mymy at the appendix to at least attach the sisters organically). But I chose to write a story that specifically has the disguise of a fanfiction when it's a YA/A novel in essence. The register is nothing you'd find on AO3, and I've already read a lot of dogshit Zellig fics there. writerfail (and maybe pnegpng) are the only AO3 fanfic authors who can actually meet your expectations, but what I'm doing is an entirely different thing. An actual novel, breaking 70k words, carrying the continuation genre centred on the peripheral teacher character. Yes, it hurts that nobody would read it probably, but if it catches a niche, well, that's how Massa got to us, didn't he? A friend (not a beta reader, but he's reading my current manuscript) told me that my book reads as if Massa himself continued the series via writing, and that means a lot to me.
<revengespaceI can't just release the entire thing now, because I overlooked one key worldbuilding factor in my manuscript and I'm back to the drawing board, but this story is what I believe one worth telling, and if my beta reader says exploring moral greys via Ongezellig fan literature is something worth considering, then perhaps I shouldn't just throw it all away.
>>135932This story is exactly what I want it to be. It just fucking sucks this fandom has been infiltrated by tweens younger than my time playing fucking Dota (I've played it since 2008) so I'm clearly not writing for them. The real question is, am I also writing for >>(You)?
>>135933Exactly. Actually, in my novel she's 48, way older and makes way more sense. The sisters going their own way is implicit but I focused on the other classmates (besides Rens, Sjef and Yfke in particular based on whatever information I have on them), so writing about Vera as an adult instead of the sisters as adult was my priority. Not saying that I'm incapable of writing the sisters as adults, since Maya would be as old as I am if the pilot took place in 2019 for example, but I chose not to do it. Yet.
>>135934Well, I wrote a reason why she doesn't. But fuck, I really just want this
fucking book to be done with so you guys can actually fucking read it
No.135945
>>135937I wish Mommy Vera would look down on me like this
No.135947
>>135945You're gonna love this book then my zigga
No.135949
>>135911>the 'cord thingstill marge
No.135950
also have you tried pandoc?
No.135953
>>135937‘taneous i really like the narrative but i feel like it’s being forced to compete against the prose sometimes. when it gets ornate it feels like it’s trying to accomplish its own ends and not the ends of the narrative, but i’m sure this isn’t news to you. you defended your lack of dialogue markers to writerfail, aware that it adds complexity but you believe that makes it more rewarding. i disagree with the prose-centric philosophy. this isn’t to say i don’t like it, i do, your characterization is great, the dialogue is interesting and authentic, uses subtext well, and mymy’s role as a nearly invisible antagonist is great, but in my opinion the prose can come into conflict with these. this isn’t trying to convince you to change anything i’m just sharing some opinions.
No.135954
>>135950It's a conversion tool. Docs is good for inputting but not typesetting so LOWriter is what I'm sticking with. After I finish my output there, then can I use pandoc
No.135955
>>135953Which version did you read, may I ask?
No.135956
>>135954i know what pandoc is, i just suggest you stop overthinking the entire thing, just write it down in markdown, convert to epub, and be finally done with it
No.135958
>>135955The version on ao3, I’m not aware of another full version.
No.135961
>>135958I see. The 26k-word AO3 version is already a material about the delay of the word of the allegation being uttered. But right now, as my novel breaks 76k words, you're gonna see more people, more things, more worldbuilding. The prose you speak of, that which competes against the narrative, is a stylistic choice of mine, yes, and definitely still exists in my current workload. But put it this way: the prose, in my AO3 version, doesn't have to have momentum, advance the narrative. Instead, see the prose as characterisation. If my AO3 version is already ornate, the full novel will be thrice as much. It's not always meant to tell you where the story is going as much as it is quite often telling you what it is about, who it is about. If you want, my email is up above, and I'll send you a copy of my current manuscript.
No.135962
>>135937thats not what pigeonholing means,you mean to say shoehorn
No.135963
>>135961yeah it’s just opposite to my view on the purpose of prose. in my eyes the point of a work is the narrative and that should be the focus. the elements should reinforce the narrative and the characters. when my prose works against my narrative i change the prose. i think an author can still write about what it’s about and who it’s about without becoming style heavy. you’re talented i just disagree with the aspect you are choosing to emphasize and making it intentionally obscure. i’ll read it when it comes out and i’m sure it will be high quality but you don’t need to send me anything early because i unfortunately guarantee the only thing i’ll have to say is that the prose should stop competing with narrative clarity.
No.135964
>>135963To me, a work is not just the narrative. Narratives compel people to feel things about them, in your cas you find my prose obscure, perhaps difficult, perhaps wanting. Transparent prose is amazing! I've read Chekhov's short stories as an example of simple stories that are enhanced thoroughly by their content. It's fine if you disagree with my philosophy, otherwise it wouldn't be my work. Simple stories still work, but I chose a simple plot told in depth instead. Narrative clarity is one thing, and that is your emphasis. It isn't my priority, and, like my book says at one point,
>That which is received is received according to the mode of the reveiver.It's fine that you disagree. I think that's the point.
No.135968
>>135937>writerfail (and maybe pnegpng) are the only AO3 fanfic authors who can actually meet your expectationsI find it funny that writerfail is literally just an amateur with average skill and he’s the best one on that shithole
No.135999
>>135968i mean he's above average imo but still