No.76823
>>76822Just like most of the Zaryans, but we don't care about it.
No.76824
>>76823i DO care though and i NEED to learn there's no way around it.
No.76832
>>76831ev&doe it's not, every single time i look at it i hate myself even more and regret drawing this shit even more i should have never even started that's what i hate myself about i want to quit every second because of just how brimmy my shit truly is it's terrible. i also drew a couple maya's but i'll be dead before i post those nigga they're just too retarded i feel terrible for maya in fact that's how bad those are
No.76835
>>76834holy gemerald i fucking love this, and yet i have no fucking clue what to do i feel disgusted not just looking at my shit, it's AS i am drawing it's cringy it's brimmy it makes me want to DIE basically how tf do i overcome that or something, and that's right now when i'm all alone in my room, it's way worse when somewhere public or whatever like a stupid lecture, i wish i wouldn't care and just start drawing there but my insane mind won't let me, even if i know that no nigger will ever even get a glimpse, idk what to do i'm fucked
No.76837
I know the feeling newBRAP, I wish I could give you any useful advice beyond "just draw bro", but you really do gotta learn how to see what you see and visualize the shape and form of it to be drawn on paper or tablet, and it all starts and ends with your actions. As a starting point, there are websites and books for you to check out if you want, I heard drawabox is alright for newfags and of course there are the Andrew Loomis' books.
Btw I'm the guy who made
>>76833 just now, which is funny since I've also been slacking on practicing for a bit so this was the first "real" drawing I've made in a while.
No.76838
>>76835been there before. on some days, i have this urge to draw but never really act on it so i ended up procrastinating the day away playing vidya. the urge to draw crawling behind my back makes me feel very tense as i'm playing. when it's getting too overwhelming that's usually where i start drawing. also that's not my drawing geg
No.76839
>>76835Hating how your art looks is a part of the process of improving, i despise some of my old shit.
Just start with the basics like simple anatomy and shapes and work your way up. It's good to prioritize learning one thing rather than a whole bunch of different.
A part of it is just drawing the same things a lot of times while making notice of all the mistakes in your previous attempts.
No.76841
>>76822Genetics. Teaching won't undo low potential.
No.76844
>>76837also keyed drawing btw
No.76845
>>76843Ideally probably on paper just to build better hand-eye coordination compared to screen. Not that you wouldn't develop if you used screen, but there's the overall feeling of tactility and line control that you wouldn't get with screens if you let it hold your hand too much with stabilizers and shit. Also try not to zoom in so much when you draw as that's not how you "see the big picture" when you draw IRL.
>>76844 thanks btw.
No.76847
>>76822My first pieces were and are repulsive but experience is the best teacher, just trvst and keep drawing
No.76848
>>76846oh… that's my queen on a rope… i'll just pretend that was from an alternate universe where we have never met each other
>>76847thanks for the advice!
No.76849
>>76830Being able to draw a human(enough) face like picrel without imploding is already a good start, even if it is traced/referenced. Is there any other work we can see?
No.76851
>>76849i said i wouldn't post muh maya's but here i am, 1st one i referenced off of a tutorial thing a zaryan had posted somewhere and 2nd one is a combination of my previous knowledge and that one frame from deel 4 or 5? i didn't use reference there doe, besides the 1st maya, i already hate this, this is the brimstone that will singlehandedly destroy sharty, zarty and everything around them that's how terrible those all are or something the longer i'm not sending this the more i want to not send this so i'll just post it now but i'll fucking hate myself more with each second passing, if the zarty implodes because of this brim it's only partially on me as again
(YOU) asked for more or something o algo
No.76852
>>76851oh right on the 2nd one i for some reason decided to go really small ig cuz i wanted to fit in all but i went a bit toooooo small like it's really hard to add any details nigga i hate this i hate this i hate this i hate this
No.76853
>>76851i remember you, i'm glad you're trying to draw thoughbeit
i've drawn some stuff too myself, i could give you some tips idk
No.76856
>>76853tips are always appreciated, how come you remember me though ever like who in the fuck do you think i am?
No.76857
>>76856i've been talking to you for like a month nigga
i don't know why but you pop up everywhere i go, it's like a fucking horror movie.
No.76858
>>76851That's not brimstone, I love Maya
No.76860
>>76857oh that's silly isn't it? either you have schizo, i have schizo or we both have schizo, or no one who knows who cares anyway? as one has said
>i don't give a fuckfunny song… but maybe i am the person you think i am idk nigga
>>76858>>76859i too love maya, with all of my heart, but i feel terrible for creating such brimstone of her, if she would have been in her worst and we never met and she saw this shit she'd probably actually do some bad shit to herself maybe idk it's sad to think
No.76864
i love maya so much i cannot take it anymore i NEED her.
No.76865
>>76861you simply can not be a good traceGOD without the knowledge of drawing, yes i could recreate/trace something 1 to 1 but ask me to change/add ONE (1) thing and it'll look completely out of place, ugly and just not right, this piece, i could never do it even trace, to trace you still need SOME knowledge that's the issue, i don't have it! still gemmy piece of art though ever
No.76866
>>76864me too zaryan brother me too…
No.76867
>>76865one tip then would be to practice (Sherlock Holmes award) what I mean by that is take any drawing and try to copy it down on paper, not tracing it, but trying to emulate it. With enough time you'll pick up on the nuances of it
No.76868
>>76860meds, we are not both schizo.
she would be charmed by your drawings since she can't draw very well either, anyway…
i think the best way to learn is to use references, i think you should learn how to portray realistic humans before moving onto stylized stuff.
No.76870
>>76851Using references is recommended. You can't just memorize every single detail of a character specially if you are a begginer. Even if you want to draw maya in your own style you'll need various reference images.
There are a lot of things that can help improving
1) Figuring out the flaws from your last drawing.
2) Asking for feedback from other artists.
3) Looking at other artists work and paying close attention on how they draw certain parts of the body such as eyes, nose, hands, etc.
No.76871
>>76870that's very helpful! thanks, as i had previously mentioned i drew it in a wayy too tiny scale which just made everything way harder and what not, i appreciate the feedback thing as well yeah thanks
>>76868saying
>we are not both schizoimplies that either you or i am, it's not like you said "none of us are schizo" i'll just assume you're suggesting that i am schizo which fair enough i do clearly have some weird retardation going on, Maya would not be happy with the drawing doe as i had already pointed out it's just the truth also thanks for the advice
>>76867and thank you kind stranger for the advice as well!
No.76874
>>76871Next time add a ace of hearts tattoo to maya
No.76875
>>76874>>76873fuck you niggers, i'm tired of pretending like all of this raceplay shit is funny, normal or anything it is NOT acceptable, it stems from the "roots" of this place like sharty and i suppose/assume 4cuck but that still doesn't make this okay they're like 16 you sick fuck, one thing is to say
>oh i love mayacuz i do, and many others do, that's fine, there's a difference between love and sex/sexual shit, i don't got the time to type out useless shit again rn cuz apparently i gotta draw now a bit just fuck off you stupid niggers.
>inb4 no fun allowed KYS NIGGERS! No.76879
>>76875The post to kill every racebaiter
No.76881
>>76875I agree Maya is for hugs but Coco is for racebait
No.76885
>>76880>>76879seriously how is this shit allowed? i don't understand, my stupid retarded insane mind can not comprehend why anyone is allowed to make such insane, sexual, "jokes" on a board that is about a show with CLEARLY implied minors, kids and so on, look i'm all for free speech, i love to laugh at a good joke, but this is straight up borderline pedophilia, like huh?? what happened to the 1st rule? i think it's the 1st rule that literally says pornographic content of any kind is allowed
NO KIND YOU STUPID NIGGER that also covers text based shit said there they only allow mild gore not mild sexual shit not racebait shit no sex shit you stupid imbecile FUCKING BLEED OUT DIE KYS STUPID NIGGERS! yes i leak, because this is disgusting this is absolutely unacceptable but somehow we're in this "society" if you want it that, that kind of "accepts" or more or less ignores this, no this is not acceptable i'm sorry but this is just wrong. i'm tired of pretending like this is fine, back on the sharty/maybe 4cuck even, at least the characters were idk they weren't literal 16 yo kids nigga, i mean now that is also posted there but what i'm saying is that the "joke" from my knowledge never even started on this particular show or whatever it didn't start on these girls but it came on them as a byproduct of the people who came into this place but never bothered to idk maybe like realize that this is morally wrong and fucked up to say? imagine some nigga lawyer would see your "funny" "racebait post" wtf is he supposed to even defend??? oh like fucking free speech? jokes? is that it? how tf is this okay? spadeson was never funny but this shit? this is beyond unfunny, this is creepy, borderline pedophilia and should in no way EVER be accepted idc i don't give a fuck if you think otherwise in fact i'll judge you for thinking other wise, at least if that other means that you're fine with shit like that because it simply is not and it should have been addressed a long time ago, i appreciate that this place seems to be trying to combat niggers and such but there needs to be some revision because i don't know what else to say this is sad and i'm disgusted that i have to even address this.
THIS, is my response to the nigger racebaiters. Please do better.
No.76886
>>76884tsmt, also doesn't this place literally have an age rule of 18+ like technically no one is even supposed to be a minor on here, this doesn't really make it look better to say the least, i love ongezellig i love you people but some things just NEED to be let go, this should not be your or idk maybe already "our" thing, it simply is not okay.
No.76887
>>76885>seriously how is this shit allowed? i don't understand, my stupid retarded insane mind can not comprehend why anyone is allowed to make such insane, sexual, "jokes" on a board that is about a show with CLEARLY implied minors, kids and so on, look i'm all for free speech, i love to laugh at a good joke, but this is straight up borderline pedophilia, like huh?? what happened to the 1st rule? i think it's the 1st rule that literally says pornographic content of any kind is allowed NO KIND YOU STUPID NIGGER that also covers text based shit said there they only allow mild gore not mild sexual shit not racebait shit no sex shit you stupid imbecile FUCKING BLEED OUT DIE KYS STUPID NIGGERS! yes i leak, because this is disgusting this is absolutely unacceptable but somehow we're in this "society" if you want it that, that kind of "accepts" or more or less ignores this, no this is not acceptable i'm sorry but this is just wrong. i'm tired of pretending like this is fine, back on the sharty/maybe 4cuck even, at least the characters were idk they weren't literal 16 yo kids nigga, i mean now that is also posted there but what i'm saying is that the "joke" from my knowledge never even started on this particular show or whatever it didn't start on these girls but it came on them as a byproduct of the people who came into this place but never bothered to idk maybe like realize that this is morally wrong and fucked up to say? imagine some nigga lawyer would see your "funny" "racebait post" wtf is he supposed to even defend??? oh like fucking free speech? jokes? is that it? how tf is this okay? spadeson was never funny but this shit? this is beyond unfunny, this is creepy, borderline pedophilia and should in no way EVER be accepted idc i don't give a fuck if you think otherwise in fact i'll judge you for thinking other wise, at least if that other means that you're fine with shit like that because it simply is not and it should have been addressed a long time ago, i appreciate that this place seems to be trying to combat niggers and such but there needs to be some revision because i don't know what else to say this is sad and i'm disgusted that i have to even address this.
>THIS, is my response to the nigger racebaiters. Please do better. No.76890
>>76885also made a couple typos award, but i meant that NO sexual content of ANY kind is allowed on this board at least that's what da rules say but here i am leaking over niggers doing this shit
No.76891
>inb4 zaryan has the biggest art progression in this entire site
No.76892
>>76891you're over estimating me doe but hey glad to hear that or something
No.76893
>>76889Looking a lot better!
If you want to draw the body, I recommend learning basic human anatomy before you start drawing more cartoony characters. The human body is a foundation that you can work with and change to fit your style.
Find some videos on de 'tube to help you draw a basic human body.
No.76894
>>76884Whitebois clitty is leaking because of bbc
No.76895
>>76893What's most important is that you remember the process to reach the finished product, this part of your art progression is the most infuriating so you'll have to bare a couple shitty looking figures.
No.76897
idk if this works but some tranny artist, can't remember xer name, gave a tip for beginners which was to trace a ton of anatomy drawings just to get a basis of it. this especially works well when you're drawing digitally o algo
No.76898
>>76893>>76895thanks for the advice and feedback or something, yeah learning anatomy sure seems to be a good move, some of you niggas told me to check that drawabox thing or whatever it's pretty gemmy it seems i'm giving it a shot i guess idk
>>76897i guess that could make sense technically thanks for the help!
No.76900
>>76897Just tracing alone isn't going to get you anywhere. To draw a figure effectively, you'd have to be mindful of the distances between each section of the body and observe every segment as if it were in a 3D space (the latter is a bit hard so just focus on the former for now)
A good exercise would be to pull up a person in some kind of normal pose and then trying to replicate the pose using a basic skeleton. You can start with "tracing" by directly pinpointing the different segments on the body and drawing the skeleton directly on the image, but at some point you'll have to move to copying without that.
No.76903
>>76875>>76884>>76885i may never post coco racebait after this zaryans
>flood No.76905
>>76900very helpful THANKS!
>>76903good please don't do that shit it's weird, disgusting and as i said it's borderline predatory. Just imagine if that shit was printed out and put in front of you in court like nigga you're done for there unless you got like fucking saul goodman you ain't getting out any time soon nigga
No.76908
every thread discussing about art devolves…
No.76909
>>76908Should be written into a law
No.76917
how to know you've actually improved is that you don't hate your old art, you simply glance over it and aren't interested. if it makes you cringe then it's probably better than you think, you just haven't figured out how to separate the interesting part from the slop
No.76918
Stop drawing, use AI slop or whatever. Generations nowadays love soulless art or whatever and if you produce a drawing or an art that you work hard to draw, if they don't like it they call it cringe. Why risk being called cringe when you can take the easy path of generating easier AI slop? Just stifle your creativity and give in to the AI overlords. Human consciousness is dead anyway.
No.76920
>>76918Demoralizing nigger of the year award
No.76921
>>76822AsianPie here, as I put in the tutorial, circle + rectangle = Massa’s artstyle
>>75209I’m not even trying to flex or anything when I say it’s really not that difficult.
Also references, uses references. (In the image attached I used a reference)
No.76922
>>76921Oh right the guide, having one that goes a bit more in depth could prove useful for the future Zaryans
No.76923
>>76921I knvvl MrARYANPie…
No.76932
itt mentally ill rapefugee drawfag threatens suicide while incapable to comprehend why an edgy website may contain jokes that make him uncomfortable
No.76940
>>76932Thnx chud now I don't need to read all that verbal garbage
No.76942
>>76932retard award, how is that shit a joke, i already explained myself, leaked enough there's no need to. if you can not comprehend the reasoning then you JUST might need to turn yourself in idk nigga. Never threatened to suicide btw, i think i said a couple times my shit makes me want to die or niggers like you, but i would NEVER EVER kms simply because i'm afraid of what's after, i don't want to find out any time soon or ever really, i don't want to get the unforeseen consequences that we all be met with or maybe not, may god bless us all, well you're clearly a nigger but still. Retarded? sure, but rapefugee? that's a funny way to falseflag and project you stupid nigger
>>76921gemmy but still i never really figured how shit goes from a circle with a box to fucking like whatever this is
>>76920>>76918i heckin love ai shit, but i do want to make shit myself still kinda, it's not just about the end product, it's also about the feel, no real art or ai art could make one feel the same as their OWN art that's the thing, but ai slop is funny i have to admit and those leaking over it are faggots and niggers and i hope their "jobs" will be replaced by 2026
>>76911good idea, looking at a picture of maya before going to bed wasn't enough, i have to go out fully.
>>76917i was just getting things out, throwing out shit and what not cuz i don't think i'll be doing much today so i threw out stuff, i did how ever save 2 things, i really liked the cobson.. idk why but i don't hate it anymore, i almost love it even it's weird how did i go from hating it to loving it? i'll never find that out. and also the maya one i drew where i also put the nigga i'm nuts, i don't even know why i put the text there it's not even a squirrel but it's funny and i like it so fuck yeah
No.76944
>>76942This just in: Neurotic ESL says ABSOLUTELLY nothing in 6 sentences
No.76945
>>76942My favorite sperg on the site at the moment, the nigger has such a way with xis ESL words…
No.76946
>>76944the nigger that hates everyone:
No.76956
>>76954>>76955thanks for the advice but marge scroll up for drawings or whatever
>>76946GEG
>>76945funny
No.76957
>>76956what I mean is that I need to see how people draw before giving them advice, in your case the best I can do is to tell you to loosen your hand more
Cute Mayas btw
No.76958
>>76957i should get more appropriate tools won't lie, but yeah good advice