/zellig/ - Ongezellig

https://soyzellig.party/oc/res/1040.html
Would you look at that

Ongezellig really only gets good in the last five minutes of the show, and getting to that point might be harder if I can't goon for 12 seconds. However, it would still be good, albeit it would not have such an autistic following and thus might not have stuck with me as Ongezellig did.
I think part of the appeal is that you don't expect Ongezellig to be as it is. One would expect from a show about 3 sixteen year old girls to be full of goon material, and so it's qualities are unexpected, and I seem to appreciate it more for that.
As for the thread questions:
1. The personalities would stay largely the same. I don't think any of the expressive qualities from Ongezellig require the girls to be girls.
2. I might click off, because I would not expect a show about some lonely boy to be good.
3. I don't think it would be more relatable.

>Genderbent ongezelli-
HERESY, KILL THIS TROON
THE WORK OF MASSA SHALL NOT BE MODIFIED IN SUCH DISTORTED WAYS

>>45866
even though gender transition is core zellig culture

>>45866
Zoot did this already

Maya would be a fatass

>>45863
Coco would be an Aryan Gigachad who boned every girl in school
Maya would be an even worse gooner, probably gay/trans
Mymy would be an average Zaryan

Maya already struggles with life as a femcel (easy difficulty) she would have roped as a trvecel (very hard difficulty)

>>45887
>very hard difficulty
Borderline impossible, she would be dead by 12

I don't know for certain but genderbent Maya would be called Aztec, and he would look like chud but more brown, with him having a bowlcut instead of tied up hair.
Male coco would be a cowboy-esque buff frat boy that sleeps with everybody.
mymy would be an cool edgelord kinda similar to that of dave strider that constantly gets into fights with the foreign exchange students telling them to get out of dutchborea (even doe he is japanese)
(couldn't think of a male name for coco or mymy)

>>46398
Mymy is a little too eccentric to be like Dave, he's more level-headed than she is

Ongezellig could not exist, or at the very most, would not get nearly as much attention if the main trio were boys. The idea of a show based around an 'unsociable' protagonist would only be successful if that protagonist were a woman. Who cares about lonely teenage boys? That's weird and gay. Retarded lonely "femcel" girls are romanticized online, giving the series they belong to more attention. Tomoko from Watamote, or Riamu from Idolm@ster being great examples.

1. The characters' essence would ultimately be the same. Mymy would be the same dark-humor comic-relief character, Coco would be like the Chad, and Maya would be the ugly loser guy. Maya would also be fat as another Zaryan had previously stated. However, since men and their attitudes towards other men are different compared to women, Mymy and Coco wouldn't make attempts at helping Maya and her loneliness, making the whole show (if there was one) pointless. The only way man-Mymy and man-Coco would be able to help man-Maya is to force him(her) to go out with them by any means necessary, so there wouldn't be a soft womanly approach to confronting Maya's loneliness the way Coco does.
2. If there was a fanbase like Ongezellig has now, even with a genderbent cast, I might watch it. Though, that wasn't the reason I was interested in Ongezellig originally.
3. The writing would have to be different to make it relatable. I myself have seldom had company with me during my highschool years, but I liked being in my solitude. Like what Robert DeNiro said in that movie Heat- "I'm alone, but I'm not lonely." I feel like most men treat their loneliness differently from the way Maya does.

>>46412
Now I definitely agree that the fundamental plot of ongezellig would be hard pressed to be practical in an all-male cast, however I do have some pointers that in theory would give the show merits. The thing is, there are around 10 fold more male Maya counterparts than female Mayas in real life. It’s clearly evident that even even the male “incel” spaces that they tend to dislike themselves, and obviously the “normal” people dislike them significantly worse. Now with the female side of the coin it is evident that they are treated with much more grace and are liked much more often. This shows for sure, considering that ongezellig was made, an all female main cast and the main protagonist being a female, despite that only being ~10% of the loneliness sphere. The male side is completely glossed over. A male show’s effectiveness depends on how the message is relayed. The male lonely spaces are constantly and consistently sold short and pushed to the side, even with the rapidly rising incidence of male loneliness in this modern period. Of course the exact ongezellig style is hard to work with males, but the concept more loosely definitely can. The (us) chuds are barely a footnote on the page of society, while the female chuds if you will get a paragraph, despite being 10x fewer than their male counterparts. A male ongezellig type series as a more “let’s see what’s on the other side of the coin nobody looks at” style could work decently well I think. It all depends on its execution. The whole 2 siblings thing is difficult to apply, but the unsociable idea is definitely a concept for males is very rarely seen in the public (normie) eye. O algo.

>>46418
Too bad no one gives a shit about us, hence why we're here

>>46419
Trvke

Just South Park with some character traits shuffled and merged
Mymy: Cartman's racism and megalomania, Kenny's tendency to know more and be amused about sex stuff
Coco: Butters' naivety, Kyle's moral centre, also Cartman's crazy murderous streak when you really get to him
Maya: Stan's straight man role plus autism/disaffection, Cartman's hostility toward everyone and slovenly lifestyle
tl;dr they're all pieces of Cartman