No.1044
No… Zoot… It was said that you would destroy hereotiOCs, not join them…
No.1045
i've seen that moustache before
No.1046
Hello zooty zoot, how's your hrt today? Anyways lets erp in our discord server!
No.1052
gem
No.1060
whats a hereotiOC?
No.1061
>>1060"Hero OC" in Māori language
NuZealandcacas…
No.1064
>>1040>uni student from the balkansHoly self insert
>studying somewhere in HollandGeg
Let's see what you cook up, quite sad you decided to change everything though, maybe as an afterthought when you finish?
No.1073
>>1060Someone who shills xis/xer/xheir “Original Character(s)”
No.1076
Test
No.1078
>>1064>>1064Hahaha well a lot of the character are sort of self inserts? They are a reflection of some of my thoughts and emotions connected with image boards (not always doe).
My idea for making the characters more "original" was because i plan to eventually animatie these comics when get a studio. I would be really restricted if i still have the pure ongezellig look (still using the Three Sisters, but with changed personalities). I still wish to take some parts from ongezellig (i wanna take for example Kiki for a "ss pirate LARP on the beach" episode)
Other than that the story hasnt changed as much as it has developed. for a long time i had no clue how this project would end (story wise; even the original end for the current script felt too rushed). Now i have a really cool idea, taking inspiration from LOTR, as to what the theme of the last comic/s would be.
Overall the biggest problem that i see rn is that i have no clue where to post the comic (except here obv). I could do voice dubs and upload it to YouTube and upload a pdf on pixiv (not sure what sites would be a good option). The other stuff, i feel confident that they will turn out well.
Last thing, i only uploaded a character showcase to keep you guys updated. I could also talk more about the script or any other topic
No.1079
I wish you good luck on this project Zooty Zoot.
No.1081
>>1080>zoot thinking he can get a studio to animate for himHe didn't talk about it doe
No.1084
>>1081if i understood correctly, i wish to add this: i wish to create a studio, not wait for another studio to pick me up (good luck with finding someone to fund your IB based show in Bulgaria). It would be a better idea to organise your show yourself and try to actually fund it through merch and other means. I think that that's one of the reasons Massa failed. He coudnt gather enough money to quit his job and relied only on donations, even if a lot of people asked for him to make plush merch.
And from what i understand, he wanted a studio to pick him up AND for the show to air on TV. This is just ridiculous, since his demographic consisted of people (cave dwellers from around the world) who consume media through the internet, not television.
>>1083What are you referring to?
No.1086
>>1084I remember reading this from a post on the 'farms, from "a person who worked with him" (o algo). He said that "Massa was offered help multiple times and there was even an attempt/offer to have his own studio at one point, but he refused to". You know the rest, probably
No.1090
Why not just make something fully original if you're already making so many alterations?
No.1091
When will you publish it?
>>1090I guess some work could be reused.
No.1108
>>1090Because i still wish to continue the project? The concept was already different and "original" enough in its animation phase (it was more about the sharty than ongezellig). I dont see how making alteration would logically follow just dropping the project completely and going for something else.
>>1091I dont know. My plan is to try by the end of the year, but we shall see.
No.1182
>>1181oh my fauci i forgot to subscribe so i didnt see this
No.1183
>>1181What an slf not to announce the stream here, also every single turk looks like this.
No.1184
>>1183literally zero turks look like this thougheverbeit
No.1189
Hello everybody!
Welcome Adam on stage! He is a guy from the near east obsessed with Evrope and achieving Hyperborea for the white race. He is egoistical and hungry for power. Not somebody you want to be around…
Next character i will do is Mark (aka the coco of zigle zogle). Will live stream when i am doing him (maybe tommorow).
I've made a ko fi account. My plan is for me to upload the comics in a pdf format there. I dont have a better idea. If you guys have, let me know. ko-fi.com/zootofficial
link to the stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nkoMkVKgS0>>1183My apologies. Next time I will announce it here too.
>>1184literally every turk looks like this tho
No.1193
>>1189>Next character i will do is Mark (aka the coco of zigle zogle)Seemingly perfect on the outside, traumatised and violent on the inside?
No.1195
>spends 5 hours on drawing a turk
>404 page still not ready
No.1197
Spent almost 5 hours on brown larper award
No.1199
>>1193Indeed that's the idea of the character. Although stupidness will also be a part of the mask as an attempt to return to innocens. He has a lot of bad experience with life, that's for sure.
What i didnt like about Coco was that her personality was a bit random. Sometimes she would be the typical childish blonde, sometimes she would be this smart individual with a deep and sad background. At first, i thought that Massa was doing the idea that i have, but nope, Coco is just a heckin quirky trans queen, who is smart…but also stupid?
The first comic isnt really going to focus on Mark (or adam) doe. maybe the next few will do. I already have an idea for an episode, where Mark takes over Adam's social club and tries to start a natsoc uprising "unintentionally"(mentioned in the livestream). Will figure out other stuff.
No.1203
>>1199>Mark takes over Adam's social club and tries to start a natsoc uprising "unintentionally"Beer Hall Putsch?
No.1204
>>1199Massa addressed this in the spoiler document in the “Misunderstandings about Coco” section
>Coco is stupid>She is mainly bad with technology and has skipped puberty. No.1205
>>1199>What i didnt like about Coco was that her personality was a bit random. Sometimes she would be the typical childish blonde, sometimes she would be this smart individual with a deep and sad background. At first, i thought that Massa was doing the idea that i have, but nope, Coco is just a heckin quirky trans queen, who is smart…but also stupid?What did you mean by this?
No.1206
>>1205he meant that Coco is
NOT built for big bulgarian cock anymore
No.1207
>>1206Obsessed with imagining having sex with 16yo award
No.1209
>>1203i guess you could say that
>>1204I am aware of his explanation. I do not agree with it.
In my opinion, Massa's idea was not communicated very well. Iirc, Coco had A+ grades on every subject and was doing pretty well in school. She appeared well mannered and could improvise in every situation. I can understand the computer illiteracy, but her having zero knowledge of the different meanings of "mongoloid" and her not being able to recognising porn is absurd, unless its all an act in order to cope with previous trauma… which is not.
I understand that you can fit so much into just one pilot. I just think that Coco could have seen just a bit of corrections.
No.1210
>>1209>but her having zero knowledge of the different meanings of "mongoloid" and her not being able to recognising porn is absurdCongratulations with awakening, Zoot, you've finally gotten that Ongezellig contains some humorous techniques, I'm happy for you.
No.1242
>>1210my nigga, i am just pointing out the plotholes that dont make sense. i understand that these are supposed to be jokes, they just dont make sense for the character.
No.1245
>>1210Mongool is a dutch swear word as "retard". Coco didn't understand this word and thought she was a Mongoloid. That's the Dutch joke you guys didn't understand.
No.1246
>>1242I'm not gonna ruin your fantasies, think whatever you want, but you already heard my opinion.
No.1256
>>1254>Zoot failing a soyquoteNot like this Zooty Zoot Zoot…
No.1258
>>1255This is how to gigaquoting btw
No.1262
Neil Kigger is a minor character which may be in this project or something
No.1264
>>1262Neil Kigger, I can imagine a real boer with this name
No.1273
>>1271Hello everybody!
Today we drew Mark! Innocent and child-like on the outside, but dangerous and mysterious from the inside. Despite this illusion of his, what could be considered genuine is his kindness and desire to help others, especially Peter.
He is yet to forgive himself.
Next livestream will maybe be next week, since this weekend shall be busy for me. If you guys have questions, feel free to ask me!
No.1274
>>1273looks like he's hiding a knife and is about to cut off the head of the guy in the foreground
No.1275
I really like how Zigle Zogle is developing, keep at it Zoot.
No.1277
>>1276To some extend yes. When i was planning zigle zogle out (still in its animation phase) the characters were already different from what massa said he planned from them. the only similarity was the basic concept of the shy guy, the good fellow and the trouble maker living together. There was no reason to keep the ongezellig skin (especially after ongezellig was finished).
The potential monetary gain (if the comic ever turns into an animated show) would have been hell if zigle zogle was just the "ongezellig soyjack parody".
Overall, it's just better to have it as my creation inspired by zellig (even massa agrees when saying "A little fanart at times is fine but taking inspiration from Ongezellig for your own creation is much more interesting.")
I do like the idea of Maya (and how she was portrayed), although i do think that her being mixraced beyond salvation wasnt that necessary (cool idea nonetheless). I really don't know what Massa planned for her problem's solution to be, but I am happy that Watamote wasn't a huge inspiration (that manga is dead as hell).
Mymy had a lot of potential. She already is the "ultranationalist" who would die for the Netherlands, despite her being a japanese larping as white. You could go for the tricky questions connected to ethnicity, nationality and culture in the 21st century and why do they hold any intrinsic value to begin with. But ig it's fine for her to just be the comedic character of the show. It also appears that she would have taken the eric cartman role of starting problems for the other two to fix, so we chill.
Coco is weird and could have been done better, as i have said already. Her parents just being killed by a lightning was disappointing. Nothing else is important about her past, which could have been expanded (for example, what happened to her right after her parents went dood, was she hopeless for a while until she was picked up by the schoppenboers, was she ever tempted to let loose and do some…illegal actions?). She just appears as an already perfect character, who just has a few bad memories.
No.1278
>>1277I ain't reading allat bvllgarian cattle, tldr of zoiets
No.1279
>>1277I will read this bvllgAryan warrior, make gems или нещо такова
No.1288
What the fuck is this? The Yappington elections?
No.1291
>>1277Thank you for your comprehensive answer (evendoe I don't agree with some statements).
No.1295
Zoot ## Artisan>>1291No problem, do you want another yap session today? I'll start it. wordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordsimbvllgariancattlewordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswo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No.1296
>>1295wordswordswords are zarty culture, lurk moar newfag
No.1312
>>1311I have not read any of the yappenings, what the fuck is going on in this thread?
No.1315
>>1291I am interested to know what you dont agree with (and what you do)
>>1288>>1295Keep yapping zigger
>>1311Lol
No.1317
>>1315>ziggerYou just insulted yourself zoot…
Use "zelligger" word next time ok?
No.1342
>>1341we self-inserters are white lol
No.1378
>>1209>Iirc, Coco had A+ grades on every subject and was doing pretty well in school.didn’t Massa only make a dossier for Maya, Mymy, and Cleo? i’m pretty sure you’re referring to something fan made.
No.1379
>>1378No, he made this point from himself
No.1403
>>1315>I am interested to know what you dont agree with (and what you do)Sorry for ignoring for a long time I just was in holywar with homo mauritaliano, idk when I'll find time to reply you.
No.1404
>>1403Zoot is busy rn sweetie
No.1412
>>1378Iirc, the pilot (and massa art) hinted at Coco doing great at school.
This could be a misremembrance on my part, since it was a long time since i saw episode. Atleast what i remember for sure is Coco having the necessary skills to study effectively and do homework tasks.
Massa did say that Coco is the antithesis of Maya, so it would make sense if my statement was the case.
>>1403no worries, not that it's that important. i just wanted to hear opinions. i wish you luck with your endeavours.
No.1820
I was thinking of not colouring the comic.
Instead, i will either use crosshatching or just do grey colouring with low opacity. The crosshatching idea has the potential of making the comic more sovlful, but since i dont have much experience with it (specifically with ink crosshatching), i am not sure if can pull it off that well. Another plus is that it's going to fasten the goyslop making process (so comics are gonna get uploaded sooner).
Maybe i can be a SLF and make a colour version of the comics and hide them behind a paywall.
No.1822
>>1820Shit everyone cares about
No.1823
>>1820Зоот make a paywalled board for true zaryans
No.2112
>>2111>This was my fiancée's ideaHoly immense fucking fakecel Zoot, rape and kill her and be free from this disease
>It will probably go nowhere, because of the usage of the n-word öÖö.Try to shill it in chuddy spaces, even der 'itter is a valid option
No.2116
>>2112I dont like twitter. its full of retards.
I dont know any "chud" places.
No.2117
>>2116Shill your comic in crystal cafe
No.2118
>>2116wdym retards? it's quite chuddy there
No.2119
>>2118Still not true chuds, they're like, how can you say that? Entry level?
No.2121
>>2120Rather ironic fascism since it rarely goes beyond larp
No.2122
>>2121their larp usually has a pedophilic mark for some reason
No.2123
>>2122two sides of weab degeneracy, one is this and second is tranny-leftism and they sometimes fight but are so to speak two sides of the same coin
No.2125
>>2123Its autism, always has been
No.2126
>>2118its a larp.
plus arent people complaining about twitter migrants?
No.2127
>>2126i'm one of the complaining, but i asked because depending on what zoots definition of a retard is and when was the last time he used xitter it may be the case that he wouldn't get that bad impressionn now. the place got much more chuddier since elon bought it
No.2238
>>2127Why I particularly don't like twitter is because it's a platform, heavily influenced by American politics. But i shall consider using it, since it's still free shilling.
I don't mind if people share my comic on other platforms tho.
No.2239
>>2238The only good thing is that posts get a lot of traction (that's why most of the Ongezellig art is posted there and not here for example) and for being a (((social media))) it allows pretty much anything.
No.2240
The First part is ready!
Here is the link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SoW-_mx92U4535-fiDouwSJqNJS5L-D0/view?usp=sharingI would be happy to hear your opinions on it!
No.2241
>>2240it's so……….. blindingly glistening…!
No.2243
>>2240where does the story take place?
No.2244
>>2241Glad that you liked it!
>>2242>This is just Zigle Zogle animation in comic formYes, the first part was more of a test to see what i can and can't do with a comic. The other parts will be the rest of what was supposed to be the full animation.
>I miss the colour partsThe reason as to why I switched to crosshatching is because colouring takes a lot of time and is a bit tedious. Crosshatching is a bit more enjoyable to do.
Your idea for the imagination parts to be with colour and IRL parts to be black and white (for the heckin symbolism of how real life is le bad) is an idea, which I have also contemplated. It's not bad on paper, but then comes the question "Which part could be made to be coloured and which not", since there are a lot of parts on the border between real and not real.
I will think about it more, but my main idea was to make comics faster. That's why i switched to black and white.
>>2243Somewhere in the Netherlands (or the west).
No.2246
>>2240gemmy gem gem
The only criticism I could give is that you need to develop your cross hatching skills, but I think you already knew that. Hatching has amazing potential once you master that form.
No.2249
>>2245If you think about it, Ongezellig is just Eddsworld with chicks
No.2256
>>2245I did not. Infact, i think that a potential problem of Ongezellig was that the main cast was girls. This leads to a lot of the problems that they (mostly Maya) faced being ignored or romanticized (i.e. i want a depressed sack of potatos that will khs the moment she faces struggle in life, just like le heckin Maya!!1! öÖö).
I think that the main appeal of the show was the cool community and the jokes. If you dont have that, then you just have a good dutch cartoon. Nothing more.
>>2246Hahaha, well I recently tried crosshatching and i really enjoy it. My problem is that i cant find good tutorials on the matter. All of them are confusing. Nor do i know good books. If you have any good materials on the matter, please let me know.
>>2247would be funny if that happens
No.2338
I will try to fit two scenes in the next comic. If its practical, I might actually be able to finish by december or january.
But for now, i will have to deal with uni. Maybe i will try next week.
I will also try to both improve the crosshatching (drawing the lines around the form/object) and to fill and i will attempt to mix black&white panels with coloured ones
No.2833
I drew a character sheet for the 4th "main" character - Charly the Chud. You may have noticed that he looks like a chudjak. This is because he is one of the characters distorted by Peter's imagination. In "The last Titan" he will dress as a 30 y/o wizard, but it will just be a LARP. His outfit will change depending on the theme of the comic.
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/nJZR24I've been learning how to crosshatch with a dip pen. I think that there is a bit of a progress from the first part of the comic, but maybe i need to draw for a bit more to get the hang of it.
No.2834
>>2833I know nothing about your comic but this is peak character design
No.2836
>>2835charlie got a dumpy GYAATTT
No.2837
>>2836tsmt he lookin zesty in that wizard costume
No.2838
>>2833The hatching has made great progress, it is much more expressive than before, keep it up!
No.3419
>>3416And what she's supposed to be
No.3420
>>3418putting the bvll in bvllAryan
No.3422
>>3416Zoot, that's so brave of you to come out of the closet and portray yourself as a trans OC, zaryan power zista!
No.3595
>>3419That's daisy. She is supposed to be the character in my animation inspired by the mayamails. I am half way done with my HRT so I will soon start with animation.
No.3596
>>3595It's sweet you're making a new animation, I look forward to the kino in Ϫ months.