No.67379
Ongezellig has music.
Massa uses a DAW (digital audio workstation) for music making.
Massa used FL Studio, a DAW, to make zellig's music.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nj-a6mtLuWhhUCrbB9XktQE5DErR4RtMGtx0h4LPzE0/edit?usp=sharingThis Google Sheets is here to document the sounds and instruments used in zellig's soundtrack.
And this thread is here for me to sperg and post findings since I'm sure it'd interest at least one of you to know what was used to make the music and audio of Ongezellig. So here it is.
I'll also probably post any project files for anyone who's interested in my recreations or wants to pitch in and post anything you might find interesting about zellig's sounds.
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Some things of note:
>Massa seems to mostly use pre-built/default presets that came with FL Studio or whatever 3rd Party plugin he may happen to use. So that's something to keep in mind when looking for 'lig instruments.>From the few 3rd Party plugins we do know he uses (Sonatina Orchestra, Synth1, M-Box), they all seem to be hosted on "PLUGINS 4 FREE" (https://plugins4free.com/) when searching them up. So it may be possible that's where Massa got most of his music plugins from.As a bonus, here's a download link to all of Ongezellig's songs transcribed and turned into midis:
https://files.catbox.moe/1tqko2.zip (If you happen to get a warning that this folder is full of computer viruses, it's not. Your computer is giving you a false flag, it's all midi files. And if you don't trust me:
https://www.virustotal.com)
They're not perfect, but it should be a decent start to anyone who wants to mess around with making covers/remixes/recreations of them.
No.67381
As well, I'll repost what I wrote on /co/ that I found interesting when looking at the metadata of the audio files from the paypiggy pack:
If you open up zellig's music files in Audacity and go to 'Edit > Metadata' you will actually see which version of FL that song's track was made in.
Why is this of interest? Because some tracks are labelled as being made in "FL Studio 12" and "FL Studio 20," meaning we can actually put together a very rough timeline of which tracks were made before each other (FL 12 came before FL 20 just to be clear).
Here are the tracks in order of appearance in the show with the version of FL they were assigned to:
>BokuNoSenpaiNieuw: FL 20
>Hardcore2: FL 12
>CocoAccordeon: FL 12
>Coco: FL 12
>ButTheniThought: FL 12
>ImStuck…: FL 12
>Passport photo_s2: FL 12
>Passport photo_s1: FL 12
>Imagine: FL 20
>Mymy: FL 12
>Je t_aime: FL 20
>Japanese CampForTheSoul: FL 12
>NothingPersonal: FL 12
>Angel chorus: FL 12
>ThisYear: FL 12
>Hardcore3: FL 12
>Coco8Bit: FL 12
>Credits: FL 12
>Nu uh!: FL 20
>Schoolocaust: FL 20
>MoonlightSonata: FL 20
>Mollusk love: FL 20
>IkHetMaar (Jazz): FL 20
>MayaIsAngry: FL 20
>JustImagineReprise: FL 20
>GoingHome: FL 20
>Interrogation: FL 20
>GoodmorningMaya: FL 20
>HackerChick: FL 20
>MayaErgerJeNiet: FL 20
>Victory: FL 20
>OhNo…: FL 20
>JustLeaveItToMymy!: FL 20
>ImagineReprise: FL 20
>Points for improvement: FL 20
>GoingHomeReprise: FL 20
>VictorynAnime: FL 20
>Ouverture: FL 20
>IkBenHetMaar (Complete): ???
>IkBenHetMaar (Shortened): FL 12
>IkBenHetMaar (Music Box): FL 20
>IkBenHetMaar (Instrumental): FL 20
Bonus Tracks:
>BokuNoSenpaiOud: FL 12
>Hardcore: FL 12
>PietHein: FL 12
>SchoolocaustAlt: FL 12
>CreditsAlt: FL 12
>CreditsMetal: FL 20
>CreditsRagtime: FL 20
No.67382
Some things of note:
>BokuNoSenpaiNieuw uses FL 20 whereas BokuNoSenpaiOud uses FL 12. This makes sense since Oud was used back when Deel 1 first came out and was a standalone part before getting refined and paired up with Deel 2 with "Nieuw" taking its place.
>But if you look at the other tracks for Deel 1, you'll see that Imagine and Je t_aime were made with FL 20 and not FL 12 like the rest of them. My only reasoning for why this could be is that Massa might've had to reexport them using his updated version of FL 20, for some reason.
>If you look at the IkBenHetMaar tracks, you'll see that the Shortened version uses FL 12 while the Instrumental is using FL 20. Again, Massa most likely had to reexport the shortened version without the vocals using his latest FL version rather than having one on hand when he first made it. But you'll see that the Completed version of IkBen is in "???". That's because the version of FL literally does not show up in the metadata for this track at all. I don't know why this is unless Massa deleted any mention of "FL Studio" in the metadata in something like Audacity when reexporting it or exporting it with as little metadata as possible. Why he would do this for the only track out of the other 48 files? I have no goddamn clue.
No.67383
>>67382>SchoolocaustAlt uses FL 12 while Schoolocaust uses FL 20, meaning that the Alt version was possibly an early version of Schoolocaust and Massa just repurposed it as an "alternative" version.Is any of this important or of significance? Maybe, maybe not, but I figured I'd post about it since it gives us an interesting look into the history of certain zellig tracks that could of use for later.
TL;DR 'lig music tracks use different FL Studio versions (but most of them after Deel 1 use FL 20 than FL 12)
No.67385
>>67379I look like this and say this btw
No.67388
>>67386Noiceee, I really need to help out in the recreations too
>>67387Marge
No.67389
>>67388i did an autism ignore it
No.67390
I should also mention a couple of the tools I've used to help assist me when recreating these songs:
vocalremover.org has been great with separating bass, drums, and music. No login required (tho depending on how many times you've used it, they may rate limit your use for that day based on your IP):
https://vocalremover.org/splitter-ai———————————————————
I have this .FLP template that can help you remove instruments from a song if you have the right instrument preset to use (or one that sounds fairly close enough): soyjak.download/f.php?h=0sbjadf-&d=1
(You will also need this plugin for it to work:
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/kn0ck0ut-by-st3pan0va)
Basically you want to move your base audio (the original music) into Mixer Track 3 (the blue colored bar in the mixer rack) and the audio you want removed from the original music into Mixer Track 2 (the red colored one). Layer them both under each other if you have them as audio files and hit spacebar to hear it play out, the instrument that you want removed should be mostly gone if everything goes well. You might want to boost the volume a bit with something like Fruity Limiter on the Master track since the output signal is quieter than going in for some reason (it'll also be a bit delayed if you plan on exporting it as an audio file as well, so keep that in mind).
Ideally you'd probably want to use Phase Cancellation instead (if you can) as that'll output a much cleaner track with the instrument of choice removed. Plus it's a good way of determining if your instrument sounds pretty close to what it originally sounds like in Zellig's music. You won't be able to do this with every instrument (namely some synths) but with some of the stock acoustic instruments like drums and guitars have been pretty easy to cancel with. More information on what is Phase Cancelling here:
https://youtu.be/8hVtDMFZj3Q?t=54 ———————————————————
Ultimate Vocal Remover has been great for isolating vocals and separating reverb and delay on tracks:
https://ultimatevocalremover.com/ (Enter this GUI VIP key in the settings menu to unlock more models to use: 02aeb35c203ed0a9)
This Google Document details the current best AI tools used for instrument separation and what have you. Pretty useful and informative (warning: it's fucking loooooooong):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17fjNvJzj8ZGSer7c7OFe_CNfUKbAxEh_OBv94ZdRG5c/edit#heading=h.roiuj54hzww3———————————————————
CenterCutGUI is great for splitting the sides and center of an audio file, great for determining where certain instruments are placed without the center or sides getting in the way of hearing:
http://www.moitah.net/download/latest/Center_Cut_GUI.zipSpecial shoutout to Fruity Stereo Shaper for helping with isolating either the left or right channel in a audio signal, as well as Wave Candy and SPAN for analyzing the frequencies and spectrogram of oncoming audio; good for determining the timbre, volume, frequencies boosts and cuts of an instrument as well as any effects like reverb that are easier to see. (SPAN download here:
https://www.voxengo.com/product/span/)
No.67393
>>67386More flps:
<>Passport photo_s1: soyjak.download/f.php?h=38aNaGYC&d=1
>SchoolocaustAlt (Bass guitar's amp needs to be tinkered with some more to be more accurate, but this is ok for right now): soyjak.download/f.php?h=1L1c0x_M&d=1
>NothingPersonal (Have no idea what the Marimba-like instrument is panned to the right a little, so I just grabbed whatever Chromatic plugin that sounded the closest for use): soyjak.download/f.php?h=1IP3d1kn&d=1<Plugin for NP:
https://plugins4free.com/plugin/2013/ No.67398
>>910Used this .flp and made a fix for the song, thanks
soyjak.download/f.php?h=25uwKeON&d=1
No.67400
Bump
No.67401
why is the OP post phrased like it's talking to disabled children
No.67403
>>67402insulting the IQ of übermensch zARYANs?
No.67408
>>67406now this is Real nigga hours
No.67409
Upping this thread. Any news so far?
No.67411
>>67410FNF like having fun i don't give a damn
No.67415
>>67414Kane, (You) WILL add this song
No.67417
>>67379bumping this 'gunnerGOD gem
No.67419
why is no one praising this holy shit op deserves a medal
No.67420
>>67419i know right, this document has all the samples, this is some amazing work
No.74066
Didn't know the music was this simple, also the flp links don't work, Sonatina Orchestra is really big though, even bigger than that one soundfont that i forgot the name of
No.74076
>>74066Will resend a proper archive link later
No.74111
>>74110Here you go
MoonlightSonata (Recreation):
https://files.catbox.moe/7h0ki3.flp2021-05-20 [GoodMorningMaya Early Vers.] (Recreation):
https://files.catbox.moe/n1ezn6.flp No.74113
>>74111Do you also have the complete Ik Ben Het Maar recreation too? And the music box version
No.74227
Someone please redo the fl 21 songs in fl 20 I'm Stuck on 32 bit windows
No.83943
>>83942Could definitely enjoy some adjusting, I think it's that weird instrument present throughout the entire song
No.83972
>>83942 This made me want to kill myself
No.83973
>>83942Gemmy, reminds me of cruelty squad music a lil
No.110095
Upping this for ChudGunner