No.15326[Last 50 Posts]
This is a thread meant to encourage people to take on dutch and start learning it. Share resources or information that you consider valuable, or something.
You WILL learn dutch
You WILL NOT use jewlingo or any other shitty time wasting "language learning" application
You WILL input wih dutch content
You WILL NOT get demoralized by monolingual amerilards
and you have to do all those things because…. because you just have to, ok??
Some resources:
https://4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/Dutchhttps://fsi-languages.yojik.eu/languages/DLI/DLI-Dutch.html No.15330
            
         >>15328what about us ESLgods
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         lets start with the most important words (faggot, nigger, etc..)
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         >>15328>easy to learn for native english speakersah poo
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         >>15330>>15333it's probably easier since you are already familiar with the concept of noun gender or some shit probably idk
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         >>15328japanese isnt that hard is it? maybe one of the three alphabets or something
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         >>15344ohio ahh writing system
kanji are basically doodles and you have to memorize how each and every single one of them is read because it's not phonetic, or something
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         >>15348but do you need kanji? can’t you make do without it?
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         goedenacht?
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         >>15351is this a real thing or am i retarded. i’ll actually try it.
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         >>15326I will NOT learn dutch actually. It's a retarded nigger language unlike superior aryan anglo-saxon English
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         What foreign languages do mutts learn at school? Do they learn any?
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         >>15376Mutt media implies that "studying" spanish and french are common
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         How the FUCK am I supposed to learn pronunciation on my own?
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         >>15381Learn IPA (on wikipedia? i forgot how i did it, but it's easier when you get the big idea and look at the chart to compare sounds you know with those you don't) and look the language up on Wikipedia. There should be a phonology section. Some languages have their own articles for their phonology aside from a section on their main article, Dutch being one of them. this method works, can confirm, learned pinyin and jyutping this way.
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         Learn-yourself resources:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Dutchhttps://www.dutchgrammar.com/Anyone know if there's something like these for Germans? Know it enough and I reckon that'd be easier.
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         >>15376Lots of American kids are forced by their parents to learn languages they don't care for and never actually remember. In High School I wanted to learn French or German but my parents made go to Latin classes instead.
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         learning languages is soy
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         1000 most common words in Dutch
https://www.learndutch.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/e-book-lesson-1-20-1000DutchWords.pdfWould it make sense to create a mnemosyne card set from this?
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         >>15381I believe the DLI course I linked in the OP has audio tapes, or something.
>>15369>>15428die out
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         >>15488kill yourself nigger my ancestors didn't conquer and massacre almost the entire world for me to learn fucking dutch
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                 >>155681. Would make us like heyuri (ew)
2. English is God's language
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         btw when you're a n00b you're better off reading books translated into dutch rather than books originally written in dutch because they tend to use simpler language
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         >>15570>>15572most obvious samefag award
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         >>15568Too early for that, get comfortable at understanding Dutch first. Learning a language from interaction with people who also don't know it is not the best idea.
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         >>15624tsmt, you shouldn't rush it
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         I sound stupid as hell saying dutch words out loud, I think I'm just going to abstain from speaking for the moment
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         huh, I can't see my own post
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         Btw look up "dutch short stories" on zlib, those books are usually good for learning. Or just any other dutch-english dual-language books for that matter, if you find any.
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         >>15427istg schools dont understand just let us learn the languages that will actually be fucking useful for us
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         >>15570English is not God's language, if you wanna add emphasis onto anything, you pretty much have to swear, or your options are very limited.
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         >>15921you can easily emphasize without cursing
it's just that your vocabulary is shit, bud
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         english is a rude niggerfaggot language because there's no formal second person pronouns
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         >>15326Whenever you feel frustrated, remember:
KANKER KANKER KANKER KANKER
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         >>15933Rape victim hands typed this
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         >>15939Oil up dutchcel I'm going to rape your ass RAW
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         >>15354well, did you do it?
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         Oh yeah btw if you are going to try and use videogames as input make sure they're mostly text based or else you'll just get distracted by the game itself and learn absolutely nothing.
Here are some visual novels with dutch translations if you like or are willing to put up with weeb shit
https://vndb.org/v?q=&ch=&f=032gnlN18Nd01134oand4oweb4owin&s=26w No.16390
            
         >>16389I'm starting to work on it this week.
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         Man, many of these prepositions seem redundant. Aan/Op seems like it's going to be a pain to get down.
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         Dutch language is actually a psyop in order to expand Netherland's influence on the world stage
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         >>15326I met a Dutch girl at the pub yesterday and tried to speak Dutch to her like I learned from this thread. She told me I had a heavy Belgian accent. Am I doing something wrong or has 'zellig just poisoned my pronunciation?
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         >>18121this thread has only been up for two weeks dude just how could you learn?
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         >>18121> She told me I had a heavy Belgian accent.you've failed mymy or something
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         https://nt2taalmenu.nl/learn-dutch-with-nt2taalmenu/really cool website I found full of drills and exercises
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         >>18821Ik vermoord mezellf?
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         >>18821add me at not_30k if you feel like doing so
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         >>18839Hou jij ook van zelfmoord plegen?
>>18821I don't know how long you've been learning Dutch but this isn't too bad. A more correct sentence would be: "Houdt er iemand van om vrienden op Duolingo te zijn?" or "Zou er iemand vrienden op Duolingo willen zijn?". Keep it up!
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         Why shouldn't I give up on this?
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         >>21885xis is indeed very sad, albeit just buy some indo gf and it'll be basically the same experience do not worry
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         >>21899indos don't speak dutch
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         >>21904Indos actually love the Netherlands and wish for a return to colonial days
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         Time to retvrn to my ancestors……..
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         >geefopkoord werd wakker
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         >>15352yes you need kanji if you're going to learn japanese
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         Kind of unrelated but I'm learning dutch and sharing my hecking journey or whatever in 
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                 I just started learning today. What I'm doing right now is reading de Bijbel in Dutch at 
https://www.wordproject.org/bibles/nl/01/1.htm .
I'm reading, and I don't translate/look up anything. I just try to guess the meaning with my knowledge of English, 'zellig, Genesis, some Rammstein I've listened to, and what I remember from browsing the 1000 Common.
I record the words I think I know in a text file, making sure to leave myself an indication of how confident I am with my definition of each word. After I get through one chapter, I read the chapter again, letting myself translate the words I don't know this time. I update the file, read through the file, try to memorize the words, and then repeat it all on the next chapter.
With this method, learning is actually kind of fun. I feel like I'm cracking some kind of code, making the most out of my limited knowledge– and it's exciting.
<het reddit spaceHere's the '1000 Common' I was talking about:
https://www.learndutch.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/e-book-lesson-1-20-1000DutchWords.pdfSome other links:
https://4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/Dutch#https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Dutchhttps://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWaoordenboek:HoofdpaginaNever give up on Dutch. Remember why you're doing this. Good luck, Zaryans.
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         Omhoog gaan
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                 >>15326>>26369 (Me)
Update:
When I'm lifting, I like to browse Wikipedia in between sets. Recently, I got the idea to start browsing the 
Dutch Wikipedia instead. Now, I'm getting more exposure. I recommend this tactic for other gymgoers. If you're not a gymgoer, you better start ASAP so then you can defend evropa.
Another tactic I like to use (since I'm on my computer 24/7) is to set my computer locale to Dutch and to have all my software in Dutch.
I'm improving my vocabulary, but I'm stagnating with regard to listening, speaking, and pronunciation. It would be greatly appreciated if anyone could recommend some cartoons, movies, or telly shows that use simple Dutch. Preferably without many characters from the south; I'd hate to pick up a B*lgian accent.
I did not put an arrow because I look like this and speak exactly like this.
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         >>28405lovely lad keep going
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         >>28405what the hell does browsing wikipedia mean?
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         any reccomendations for (preferably free) basic reading material in dutch like grades readers, children’s books, or anything
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         >>29619Dikkie Dik is good stuff if you can find online examples
Jan, Jans en de kinderen. Its a comic so you get visual context with it
Both I saw on Internet Archive
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         >>28405being a gymgoer lifter isn't the ideal hobby for such. Go to a Muay Thai/BJJ/MMA gym, although you can't browse the Dutch Wikipedia in between sets, since you'll look weird if you browse your phone in every 1min interval (if you get one that is)
Ideal would be 5 hours od Dutch study per day combined with both the gym and a martial art + don't forget to rewatch Ongezellig in its entirety before sleep
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         bvmq
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         Nederlands won
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         >>15326Alright, almost a year after I started
What I have learnt
>many many words in Dutch are similar to the Latin ones>the hardest sound to learn is "g">Duolingo is indeed a gay clithole and Busuu is 1488 times better, especially to advance quickly on more advanced topics>Dutch is actually really easy once you understand certain grammatical rules, if you've just started to you might have a problem with the vocabulary and remembering some words >The irregular verbs are a bitch>You VVILL sometimes mix up the Belgian accent with the Dutch accent Just overall a fun language to learn and a side activity that every Zaryan should try. Also once you get to the B1 level the delen will start to sound natural (no shit award)
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                 >>15326Hey Zaryans.
I know we hate Duolingo, but I think I found a gemmy way to derive value out of it.
I've been doing lessons on it everyday and using it in synthesis with "Routledge Intensive Dutch" (You can find all material online).
I then opened a Chat GPT prompt and copy-pasted all the vocabulary I know and set strict parameters. I ask it to prompt me sentence in English to translate into Dutch because I want to practice my ability to create sentences from scratch, and one thing that I dislike about Duolingo is that it shows me the words so I don't actually know if I remember the word for something without first seeing the word.
If I make a grammatical mistake (which I usually do because I'm a DSL shitskin), it explains in depth, and if there is a concept I still don't understand, I can ask it to clarify further.
What do you guys think?
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         >>68506>it explains in depth, and if there is a concept I still don't understand, I can ask it to clarify further.this is exactly how you are supposed to use it
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         >>68506I still prefer sticking to Busuu since it actually scales correctly, but this is nice if you really want to go the extra mile
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         Bump because more Zaryans need to learn Dutch