No.25776
>OP's IP: Turkish
You will never be truly Greek
No.25788
The mythical patriarch of the Dorians Hellenes was Danaus (for which reason they were called Danaans), who settled in Hellas along with Cadmus. According to the records written by the Greeks themselves, those were "Phoenician" Israelite immigrants from Egypt, and that they broke away from the main Israelite group led by Moses which ended up in Canaan.
It's commonly known that the Greek alphabet was initially copied from the "Phoenician" one. Ancient Greeks testified that was brought to them by Danaus and Cadmus, who again were Israelites.
Dorian settlements ought be linked with the introduction and increasing of Western-European related Y-DNA chromosomes (R1b-U152) and a corresponding ancestry (Dorian samples XAN053, XAN030, kro008 and kro009 got 63,2% of Celto-Germanic-like admixture and ancient inhabitants of Bronze Age Galatas even scored 70,5% of it, having scored 0,755 and 0,509 P-value for both respectively; also even helots of Messenia were Dorian-admixed, getting ≈20% of the Germanic-like ancestry represented by Early Medieval Saxons of England with P-value of 0,328).
Pre-Dorian Minoans and Mycenaeans were mostly dark-haired and -eyed, also the first happened to possess even less genes for lighter pigmentation, but we actually know classical Greeks known to us were fair-haired and light-eyed (60 Hellenic gods were blond, so were 181 and 109 mythic or fictitious and historical persons respectively, while on the other hand there were only 74 dark-haired ones out of all the three categories, see "Die blonden Haare der indogermanischen Völker des Altertums. Eine Sammlung der antiken Zeugnisse als Beitrag zur Indogermanenfrage", by Wilhelm Sieglin, page 136). These circumstances lead us to conclusion that Dorian invasion wasn't from the North, consisting of relatives to the Mycenaeans, but from the sea whence a genetically and genealogically different, fair-pigmentated population came from to form the historical Dorians.
Though there's another evidence worth of examining, and it's the letter from king Areus to the Judaean high priest Jonathan, in which he stated that the Israelites of Judaea and Dorian Spartans ("Lacedaemonians") are brethren through the common lineage from Abraham. It's said on Wikipedia that:
>a Greek writer contemporary of Areus, Hecataeus of Abdera, precisely published a work on the Jews, where he told that the Greek heroes Cadmeus and Danaos were expelled from Egypt at the same time as the Jews
which:
>…may be the origin for the claim of the kinship between Spartans and Jews.
Not only Hecataeus but even such authors as Herodotus wrote about Israelite maritime migrations to Greece, specifically to Crete and Peloponnesus. Even apostle Paul mentioned the origin of the Dorians in 1 Corinthians 10:1-4, 18.
All citations will appear below by the way.
No.25789
>>25788>The Phoenicians who came with Cadmus <…> introduced into Greece, after their settlement in the country, a number of accomplishments, of which the most important was writing, an art till then, I think, unknown to the Greeks. At first they used the same characters as all the other Phoenicians, but as time went on, and they changed their language, they also changed the shape of their letters. At that period most of the Greeks in the neighborhood were Ionians; they were taught these letters by the Phoenicians and adopted them, with a few alterations, for their own use, continuing to refer to them as the Phoenician characters — as was only right, as the Phoenicians had introduced them. (Herodotus, The Histories 5.58)>…when Cadmus brought from Phoenicia the letters, as they are called, Linus was again the ?rst to transfer them into the Greek language, to give a name to each character, and to fix its shape. Now the letters, as a group, are called "Phoenician" because they were brought to the Greeks from the Phoenicians, but as single letters the Pelasgians were the first to make use of the transferred characters and so they were called "Pelasgic". (Diodorus Siculus, Library of History 3.67.1)>…the aliens were driven from the country, and the most outstanding and active among them banded together and, as some say, were cast ashore in Greece and certain other regions; their leaders were notable men, chief among them being Danaus and Cadmus. But the greater number were driven into what is now called Judea … The colony was headed by a man called Moses, outstanding both for his wisdom and for his courage. (Hecataeus of Abdera cited in Diodorus Siculus, Library of History 40.3.2-3)>Areus, King of the Lacedemonians, To Onias, Sendeth Greeting. We have met with a certain writing, whereby we have discovered, that both the Judeans and the Lacedemonians are of one stock; and are derived from the kindred of Abraham: It is but just therefore, that you, who are our brethren, should send to us about any of your concerns as you please. (Antiquities of the Judaeans 12.4.10)>Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. (1 Corinthians 10:1-4) No.25808
>>25789the 1 Corinthians 10 part has no connection. it refers to the exodus story and its continuity with Christ.
No.25810
>>25808>All your and my ancestors are kinsmen and also they all were with Moses during ExodusYou're just too blind to see the most obvious things that are written directly without any figurative implication.