No.18206
<words words words just put the gems in the thread blud
Soy culture can only thrive in a world where anything deemed Right-Wing is frowned upon, and specifically a world dominated by Far-Left ideals and post (judeo) modernist takes. While our world is definitely not a Right Wing paradise, it's also not the same world we knew a year ago.
So what happens when the world moves on, but the culture that was specifically crafted for the old one doesn't?
Easy, it gets rewritten or outright dies. In the case of soy culture, it also depends on the changes of the Internet, and the inherent centralization that X the heckin' everything app is providing, which leads to a bit of contradiction.
How did soy culture become popular on Twitter if it grew up in completely hostile places?
YouTube would be an example, it's incredibly rulecucked but most of the pillars of soy culture are archived there. The answer is that soy culture, real soy culture can only exist in a semi-obscure state. Soy culture was never meant to be mass-appealing (just enough to make the 4trooners seethe) since the masses were, well, soyboys. And yet here we are, all because Twitter is now the Right-Wing site, and soy culture is distinctly RW. There are currently more people who know soy culture on the wider Internet than actual users of the street (formerly 'party).
An app like X is everything an imageboard wants to be: easily accessible, multitude of topics and a fairly free sense of speech. It's not perfect but it doesn't need to be, as long as it's designed as an everyday app, it has notifications, accounts, etc. It even outcompetes Reddit.
You have seen it with 4cuck, X rolled around and every 4cucker who hated da social medias and zoomers soon found himself on X. And it has happened to soy sites too. I could bet a thousand dollars that (You), the person reading this thread also has a Twitter account.
>What does it mean then?
That soy culture becomes subservient to a social media.
>And is it bad?
Why would anyone use obscure imageboard forums if X provides the same thing but with shiny blue bubbles that tell you when someone replied to you.
But here comes the catch: vibes and feels. The Twitter users KNOW that they're not the real deal so they find themselves in this delusion where they keep browsing the their curated goy app but also want to feel part of the group, and since those people outnumber natives 10:1 it becomes easy to explain things such as the decadence of gem and coal, in favour of aryan or troonslop, why now every 'jak that has to mock someone is brown, purity spirals etc.
It can be excused to an extent for us since we have an entire community that we interact with, on multiple sites, but the Streety? Why would the Streety ever do that?
In fact it doesn't willingly but because of a mix of factors I've listed before.
Soy culture can't move on (slopjaks would be a great example) > soy culture gets cherrypicked by the increasing masses of RW normalfags > displacement begins and so on and on
Just think of the latest additions to soy culture: gigachads riding a fly, total NAS and giga was already squeezed out by 2021, hunky twink sex machine, it's just a jartycuck but since they don't have anyone to blame but themselves it is a thing now. In the entire year of 2025, this is what soy culture produced, NAS and some FOTM self-loathing image.
So how could this change?
It probably won't but as long as Twitter.com exists, things will get worse, until you'll see the aging 'party screencap Twitter threads not in an attempt to mock the wholesome tranny who made the post, but to share it with your SoyTwittersisters and comment upon the latest Twitter Drama.
Not like the Internet will keep existing in the format we know in a year or two geg
No.18209
Soyjaks is now a meme for normies.
/thread
No.18210
>>18209This means that all this will become irrelevant.
No.18211
>>18210When the doomerism is kino
No.18212
>>18206TSMT imageboards are a dying breed. pretty soon there wont be any truly alive ones. they may have decent PPH but they wont be producing anything original. this has already happened to the sharty while there may be new stuff like Five Nights At Cobson and HTSM they are still just riffs on tired old jokes. these issues can be remedied but only by well thought out imageboards being made and having good posts being made on them. but who knows i might just be a doomer whining over SNCA
No.18213
>>18212The greatest complain I hear these days is that the internet is boring, in fact I only find myself coming here to be creative in my edits and posts, or just game the entire day, there's not much to do on the Internet and the Digital Safety Act isn't exactly inspiring confidence
No.18214
>>18206Absolute gem of an observation. Explains the immigrants and how nusoicacas lost the true meaning and purpose of 'jakking.
No.18217
when do you think has the normiefication of soy started taking place? like a year or so ago would be my guess
No.18218
gemmy lecture
No.18219
>>18217I would place it for convenience around when Frootcord got fully leaked, that's when most of the natives left for good and never came back
No.18226
So basically y'all got colonized and race-mixed
No.18247
>I could bet a thousand dollars that (You), the person reading this thread also has a Twitter account.
Bad news, Lebowski, it's time to pay me my money
No.18251
>>18206So, I guess, Musk's purchasing of Twitter also mattered in this question. You know, exactly after Musk did that, Twitter started to become more and more RW over time. Most offsite (people not acquainted with the imageboard culture) rightoids were happy about this however.
No.18252
A major social media site becoming RW is more important than soy culture surviving
No.18255
The world should become RW not just one social media site, the RW needs to win the heart of the people voting in each country, and how do they do that? By going in every site and establishing a presence, it needs to be BETTER than what is already present, but many people still sugarcoat it so "more normies" would join in
No.18257
>>18252Nobody cares about Twitter, actually. It's just an IB analogue for normies, basically. And no one became RW after the purchasing, though. Twitter just got flooded with RW chudcels from different places and barely changed the opinion of the core audience that existed in the app before 2022. The first just replaced the last. A usual scenario, honestly speaking.
No.18261
>real soy culture can only exist in a semi-obscure state. Soy culture was never meant to be mass-appealing
Hit the nail on the head. Once the esoteric memes become widely spread they stop being funny. Our little autist spaces die with exposure, this is in part why I've always been against shilling campaigns even when people say "but we'll be shilling to chuds bro! They're like us or something!"
>I could bet a thousand dollars that (You), the person reading this thread also has a Twitter account.
You'd lose that bet, but only because I make a concentrated effort to avoid social media out of autism. However the sentiment is right. Convenience killed the internet, the convenience of these mega-apps and community-hubs like reddit or shitter, and most notoriously discord has been killing the niche of imageboards and forums.
No.18263
>>18252>>18255You're a fucking idiot
>BROOO WE JUST NEED TO GET XITTERTARDS TO VOTE BRO! No.18267
>>18263Tsmt. Most of the xitterfags aren't even adults, how could they vote and so on geg
No.18268
>>18257Twitter was the only social media that had influence on the real world. Politicians, journalists etc. everyone had an account there. No other platform could really compare to it. Blue checkmarks were a status symbol that Musk managed to remove with a snap of fingers. There was enormous leakage at that and Bluesky was extremely astroturfed for some time to serve as an alternative but it failed and is now known as a containment zone for mentally deranged leftists. Normalfags don't use is, having a Bluesky account now is a political declaration while having a Twitter account was just what people online did, like using Facebook earlier, it was the default. I'm not saying that X will save the world like the other guy does, but Musk buying it was purely beneficial with zero downsides, even if he simply deleted it immediately after the purchase it would be better than doing nothing.
No.18269
>>18268trve, xhe should have deleted it though.
xhe also should have bought discord and deleted it.
No.18270
xitterzellig.party
No.18271
>>18268It all doesn't contradict that I said
No.18273
OP here let me add as to why soystreet.gg isn't also able to re-invent itself
As you all know there have been attempts at making fun of the nu RW males, called "mullets".
So why isn't the mullet taking off? It's a fresh variant that makes fun of the new archetype which actually exists, how could it not?
Simple, it hasn't been around for long enough.
Do you remember why soyboys were soyquoted in the first place?
Because they were annoying, and why they were annoying?
Because they were everywhere, and have constantly been pushing against the global psyche for years at that point.
Mullets or soy RW hasn't been long around enough to fully establish itself as a mocking archetype, so whenever you DO attempt so soyquote a mullet, you end up having a hard time, don't you?
And this puts the culture in a risky position, a fight against time. Only if it (we) survive long enough we'll see the new archetype rise and fall, but until then, our best bet is to stick together and engage in our little hobby
No.18275
I noticed the Internet seems way less white than it seemed a couple of years ago. Soy culture seemed to mock white libtards but now it's more relevent to mock foreigners of all kinds since you can't ingore their existence. Also take into account the gorillions of latino and other brown larpers. It's a pity that the EFL white western world is sinking into oblivion.
No.18282
>>18275This is true but it just ties back to the centralization of the Internet. Since everyone is on the same big hugbox you're bound to see, well everyone, and that includes browns (which also happen to be the 99% majority of pedophiles/lolipedos). One thing I didn't talk about is the centrality of American politics into soy culture. That's where the soy ideology came from after all, and right now there's a big discussion over whether or not browns/jeets/niggers should even stay in the US, with the cuckservative goyim saying that being American is just a le heckin' idea and the chudcels trying to enact TND or whatever. So mocking brown archetypes such as meximutt or mocking various digital groups with slopjaks in this eternal one-upping game of who can make the coaliest drawing, it finds a lot of room to grow and go off the rails.
I even say it has to do with the fact most of the nusois are as terminally online as the people they're mocking, so why would they know about white libtard archetypes if they don't go outside enough to see them?
No.18286
the format of an imageboard has real problems by design. I think that the absence of accounts sort of hurts any community and destroys stabilit.
>BU MA HECKIN ANONIMITY!!1!1!öÖöööÖÖÖöÖö
The whole "focus on anonymity" culture (which started to get absurd when doxxingliterallywhosmaxxing got popular with doll on /raid/) has hurt it more than it has helped. i think thats the main reason why people started to slowly move onto mainstream social medias, where you could identify with other individuals and make friends more easily, without the fear of being criticized for sharing basic info that wont hurt you or being doxxed for supporting PND instead of TND by fernando rusoterra from Mexico, because you hurt his arbitrary and unjustifiable moral claims. I also use other forms of social media to talk to friends that i know from this sphere, simply because IBs are limited in this regard.
>inb4 you want cordlig.reddit then
i just want a stronger community where i can recognize somebody, without the need of memorizing every possible way that they might express themself in a text format. Boorus are an interesting form of IBs, but they are more designed to store content in a specific way and are not good for forum interaction (plus also have anon posting). It would also be cool if VPNs and especially Tor werent such a big problem, which in the near future might be real useful, provided internet access in general wont be restricted to digital IDs
Speaking of, it doesnt help the fact that moderation only has IPs, VPNs etc to identify individuals and stop bad actors from interacting with the site (if we ignore bots, which can be dealt with using hash banning and other methods and arent strictly tied to ips). Basically some levels of datamining are encouraged and stuff like tor is disabled afaik (since it would be absolute hell to deal with).
No.18290
>>18286>the format of an imageboard has real problems by design. I think that the absence of accounts sort of hurts any community and destroys stabilit.
>>BU MA HECKIN ANONIMITY!!1!1!öÖöööÖÖÖöÖö
>The whole "focus on anonymity" culture (which started to get absurd when doxxingliterallywhosmaxxing got popular with doll on /raid/) has hurt it more than it has helped. i think thats the main reason why people started to slowly move onto mainstream social medias, where you could identify with other individuals and make friends more easily, without the fear of being criticized for sharing basic info that wont hurt you or being doxxed for supporting PND instead of TND by fernando rusoterra from Mexico, because you hurt his arbitrary and unjustifiable moral claims. I also use other forms of social media to talk to friends that i know from this sphere, simply because IBs are limited in this regard.
>>inb4 you want cordlig.reddit then>i just want a stronger community where i can recognize somebody, without the need of memorizing every possible way that they might express themself in a text format. Boorus are an interesting form of IBs, but they are more designed to store content in a specific way and are not good for forum interaction (plus also have anon posting). It would also be cool if VPNs and especially Tor werent such a big problem, which in the near future might be real useful, provided internet access in general wont be restricted to digital IDs
>Speaking of, it doesnt help the fact that moderation only has IPs, VPNs etc to identify individuals and stop bad actors from interacting with the site (if we ignore bots, which can be dealt with using hash banning and other methods and arent strictly tied to ips). Basically some levels of datamining are encouraged and stuff like tor is disabled afaik (since it would be absolute hell to deal with). No.18291
>>18286hi zoot i hope you're doing well
No.18292
>>18286ZoottrukeNOTcord woke up
No.18297
>>18286Sounds like you just don't like the anonymous format. Personally I like full anonymity. To me it seems to create a more coherent whole instead of dividing it into cliques and attentionwhores like 'cord.
No.18298
>>18291I am, thank you. Had a bit of a struggle with finding a job for a while but that has been dealt with.
>>18290I look like this and say this
>>18297>Sounds like you just don't like the anonymous format.i have been enough time on these places (almost 3 years) to know the problems.
>Personally I like full anonymitybesides having some contradicting problems, i think it has its charm but…
>To me it seems to create a more coherent whole instead of dividing it into cliques and attentionwhores like 'cord.Division is just as likely, if not more likely, to happen in an anon environment. the sharty still had division problems (kuz and the jarty; doll and his board isolation policies + early removal of 5 board plan mentality + early attraction of migrants and change of sharty culture + red acting like a retard and doll not giving a crap; froot and his 50 board experiment + all the other crap he did etc.), which got worse and worse as time went by. it does not help the fact that a tiny vocal minority (either the mods themselves or a few laymen) can appear much larger than it is to the average joe shmoe and can enact sheep mentality strategies.
Also "attentionwhores" still appear here and have appeared for a good while. They even successfully live rent free in people's heads. They can save the housing problem in many countries by showing us their tricks! You also have the "notsoattentionwhores" who everybody likes/has no problem with, because they make cool stuff.
Basically IBs are handicapped cord servers and i think that strictly sticking to some features will continue to hurt us. There are other factors that play into creating a "coherent whole" and trying to not have identification (which will always exist and is presupposed when interacting with a community made of
individuals) is not one of them.
No.18301
>>18299yes. otherwise what are you doing here.
No.18304
>>18298I agree, but I've been around long enough to hear this exact argument about halfchan, so much potential, and so much potential to divide and conquer. Falseflags are just as normal here as the fact rain falls from the sky, it's an intrinsic fact of the imageboard format. It has its up and downs but the other options are not better either
No.18312
>>18298When I said division I didn't mean any sort of division, but specifically cliques. Division happens but it's division among the lines of ideas rather than reputation or acquaintance. The anonymous environment also limits these divisions (you may call someone a nigger in one thread but have a good time with him in another) so exclusion isn't as widespread. There's other things I like about it like how it encourages honesty but that's neither here nor there.
>Basically IBs are handicapped cord serversKys albeit
No.18331
>>18312>specifically cliquesi may have misunderstood, can you elaborate by what you mean exactly?
>it's division among the lines of ideas rather than reputation or acquaintancereputation is also a part of it. certain groups have a reputation for something (for example frogs for being nofunallowedcacas). acquaintance is when the cord server gets leaked.
>The anonymous environment also limits these divisions the fact that we had a period of splinters shows otherwise. there are other factors that play as to how connected a community is.
>how it encourages honestythats not exclusive to IBs DOE (i also see some do nasty stuff, just because they are anons and nobody will connect their works to them irl)
>Kys albeitI have spoken the truth. KNEEL BEFORE ME!
>>18304> It has its up and downs but the other options are not better eitherPerhaps you are right. Im just interested in other formats of forums and how they might play out. My idea isnt really complete removal of anonymity, but simply seeing if removing some features would fix a few contradictions. But we shall see how it goes.
No.18336
margee
No.18342
>>18331Hey zoot when is this redirecting to the sharty
No.18344
>>18343Have this site redirect to soyjak.st/qa/ at this point, features like replies working and the quick reply box still have yet to work here several years later
No.18345
>>18344they work fine for me. if you experience problems, share them on /q/ in the dev suggestion thread (its pined). he is a bit busy rn with either irl stuff or soruum so idk if he will respond asap
No.18348
>>18347This is more proof that you don't care about this site, this is super easy to fix too KEK
No.18351
>>18344I chudheart inventing fake issues
No.18353
>>18331Cliques as in closed circles of online friends, rather than people taking sides on some issue, that's the distinction I was making
>Honestly is not exclusive to IBsTotal honesty is. Even forums where people are technically anonymous, people will still cultivate a persona/reputation tied to their account (usually)
No.18356
>>18353Let's be real, if people were actually honest on this website 90% of them would get banned
No.18365
>>18363>failquote>cope projector evendoe you are the one copinggeg
No.18366
>>18365>>18356Mods this nigger is basically admitting that if he was entirely honest in his posts he would be banned. ban this nigger now
No.18367
>>18366no, I obviously belong to the 10% you retard
No.18369
>>18368I'm sure you also do, right? We are both special.
No.18370
>>18369i think that 95% of this sites population is in line with the rules and you're an outlier who's projecting your degeneracy onto others
No.18371
>>18344It works for me too what are you on about
No.18381
>>18366highest caliber of worst gangster police state
No.18404
>>18353>Cliques as in closed circles of online friendsthen no, you also get this here too (as far as you can do it on an open forum/social media/whatother online public space there is), but you need to use outside tools.
>Total honesty isyou can add whatever positive adjective you want to "honesty", it wont make it exclusive to IBs. Some people lie or do nasty stuff here as well (doesnt make it better that your are a bit limited with the ways you can communicate with people in an IB). And people can be honest in "non-anon" environments (by that i just mean accounts, not having your whole personal info on your account).
>Even forums where people are technically anonymous, people will still cultivate a persona/reputation tied to their account (usually)I am not sure what is this responding to specifically, but i have nothing against this. People do that here too. Its what happens in a community in general.
>>18346Its so bloody over for me, im shutting down the zarty in 12 hours
No.18414
>>18404>you also get this here too>but you need to use outside toolsYeah so it's off-site (usually discord, which is banned)
>it wont make it exclusive to IBsWell yeah if you want to be a pedantic faggot, nothing is exclusive to anything but with more anonymity people feel more free to say whatever. A more anonymous environment encourages people to speak without a filter (if I knew you in real life I probably wouldn't call you a pedantic faggot)
>I am not sure what is this responding to specificallyRead above
No.18427
>>18414>Yeah so it's off-siteBut you still get such behavior, even if its "off-site" (people still use the site and associate with it). Handicapped discord servers.
> but with more anonymity people feel more free to say whateverthis depends more on the culture/soical environment. i've been to places where people feel free to say whatever in a non anon place.
>A more anonymous environment encourages people to speak without a filterAgain, this is not exclusive to the IB structure. And I really dont see why a person cant speak without a filter with an account, when he can just put a random ahh name and use a VPN/Whatever there is to hide your ip o algo.
>if I knew you in real life I probably wouldn't call you a pedantic faggotor maybe you would. again, depends on the social environment. Some places use rough language in a friendly talk.
No.18428
>>18427It's offsite and it's hard for it to bleed into here because people can't use names to identify each other. Even so discord is an illness and association with it should be banned.
Also what's up with you saying this place is handicapped discord? Zarty isn't a handicapped discord server, it's just not a discord server. Are we comparing everything to discord servers? Is a forum just a slower discord server? Is youtube just video orientated discord? Is whatsapp just discord with phone numbers?
>i've been to placesYou're acting like a nigger who doesn't understand what "per capita" means.
>Niggers are violent<But I know a black guy that isn't!>Anonymity encourages honesty<But I know a place that isn't anonymous and is honest!You also ask why an account would effect someone's willingness to be honest, it's because by merely having an account he is no longer anonymous. He may be unidentifiable in real life, but having an account makes him a person where things he says are tied to this person.
Not to expand the conversation but we're also begging the question of how you can recognize honesty
No.18429
>>18428Why should we care about faggots who despite being anonymous through VPN/Tor/whatever still feel the need to censor themselves because of muh account reputation? They are a waste of oxygen with redditor mentality. Even worse, because redditors can at least blame the karma mechanism.
No.18430
>>18429It's not just account reputation or keeping appearances, it's a natural human instinct to filter their speech to a degree for various reasons (most of which come from being identifiable). But you don't have to care, I'm just saying I like it when no one has a filter.
No.18464
>>18428>it's hard for it to bleed into here because people can't use names to identify each other.<I wish there was a way to screenshot my posts and tell my buddy about my posts… Mane, if only i could talk about the stuff i post here with my buddy…
>Even so discord is an illness and association with it should be banned. Scheisse, i need to ban myself for using le forbidden app.
>Also what's up with you saying this place is handicapped discord? Because discord is an awsome platform and its an online thing.
>Zarty isn't a handicapped discord serverIt is DOE
>it's just not a discord server<he doesnt know
>Are we comparing everything to discord servers? Yes, because people are obsessed with cord. Its been a thing since people started mixing cord itself with anti-sharty servers. We can use reddit, if you want. IMO Skype pre-2011 would be based.
>Is a forum just a slower discord server? Yes.
>Is youtube just video orientated discord?Preach!
>Is whatsapp just discord with phone numbersCoudnt have said it better!
>no mention of twitter:(
>You're acting like a nigger who doesn't understand what "per capita" means.Shieeeeee mane! I didn read da pape' on how da IB makes ya more honest about yo transitionin! Can i axe where can a nigga read dat pape' where da experts say?
>Anonymity encourages honesty<But I know a place that isn't anonymous and is honest!as if the zarty isnt "just a place" (evendoe you are still guessing who is honest and who is not and which post belongs to whom and bla bla bla). For example, if you give me the psyop simulator that is 4chan as a bastion of "honesty" (since its an ib) then im livestreaming my suicide and i will force (you)🫵🫵🫵 to watch it. The sharty is prob a psyop at this point too.
>Not to expand the conversation but we're also begging the question of how you can recognize honestyI mean, there are methods of recognizing patterns/habits/etc (if we are talking about people talking about themselves). You need to do extra steps to do that here doe.
Hop on general VC, we can talk more there, RapeCunny1488! :D
No.18470
>>18464People being discord faggots is still separate from the rest of community though
>Scheisse, i need to ban myself for using le forbidden app. trvke
>oy this goy doesn't even know about muh 'cord cabal where I employed pedos and kikes as jannies!>if you call 4chan a bastion of honesty im livestreaming my suicide and i will force (you)🫵🫵🫵 to watch it4chan is a bastion of honesty
>Hop on general VC, we can talk more there, RapeCunny1488! :Dhmu when the janny 'p goonsesh is over :)
No.18942
>>18470>People being discord faggots is still separate from the rest of community thoughwhatever you say
>>oy this goy doesn't even know about muh 'cord cabal where I employed pedos and kikes as jannies!meds and sproke NOW
>4chan is a bastion of honesty:(
>hmu when the janny 'p goonsesh is over :)🤝 you got it, g