No.3308
>>3307Zoll rangeban india
No.3312
>>3311yea finish what zuz started
No.3313
>>3307Oh right.
Memeflags on
>>>/brabant/ No.3316
>>3315no arrow, also already done
No.3354
replace the scratch links on /v/ with turbowarp.org cuz of better performance and features
No.3357
>>3314>>3315>>3354>make zarty saving suggestions<not added>someone makes a suggestion that requires low effort<added@Zoot ## TopRabbi
Really amazing skills
No.3358
>>3357I look like this and I do this
No.3359
but seriously:
>rangeban everyone who makes my clitty leaknot needed unless zoot really wants that
>memeflags on >>>/brabant/memeflags are a jewish concept
>themescontribute one yourself
>team wars>shemmy quoting buttonsengagement bait slop, this is not a spam website
>an IRC for faster communicationdiscord in anything but code
>rules much more appeareantthere are obvious enough for anyone without two digit IQ, also not my responsibility
>also an zellig-themed captchaalready done
No.3360
rangeban everyone who makes my clitty leak
memeflags on
>>>/brabant/themes
team wars
shemmy quoting buttons
an IRC for faster communication
rules much more appeareant
also an zellig-themed captcha
No.3797
>>3307Proofread and standardize Da Rules. They reek of ESL or underage.
No.3800
>>3797I have the non-ESL version somewhere so I will update them, but you will be needed to proofread them again, in case some eslralds sneaked in.
No.3929
>>3927Image ban the post above me
No.4122
^blue text
No.4125
thanks for the blue
No.4126
>>4124exactly, its purpose is to quote what discorder says (not me doe)
No.4127
^lorenzoid discord falseflagger btw
No.4128
text
No.4202
>>3307Make posters from South Africa in /brabant/ have the apartheid flag instead of current one, and Dutch posters have the classic orange flag instead of the current one.
Would be a fun little detail that'd make the site stand out
No.4205
>>4202>>4203>>4204Find the flags then, check on /brabant/ the required size
No.4207
>>4206Ware Dietse patriQtten zijn weer opgestaan.
No.4212
>>4211OH nononononon frenchcacas are we really pedophiles?
No.4443
I've never saw a Zimbabwean poster, but will add it, because why not. I also removed many VPN bans from old raids, so you won't need to test them before posting. And also removed the captcha while forgetting to disable it and thus blocked the website for half an hour geg
No.4444
lame
No.4445
exciting
No.4449
>>4443Would it be zemmy to add also the other flags of the ex-colonial dutch lands?
No.4463
>>4449snca that will never be visible because we never get posters from those countries
No.4464
Tor is now unlocked
No.4465
>>4463Evendoe we have a muttmerican and brapzillian
No.4471
>>3307add option to enable a harder captcha with secondary characters so raiders will have to watch the show and study the 'zellig lore
No.4473
>>4471GEG, please do this
No.4475
It's done already, all I need are black, transparent PNGs the size of about 40x40 pixels with the characters you want.
No.4476
I prepared those used now by increasing the contrast of an image, lowering the number of colors first to 3 and then to 2, and then removing the background. Maybe you can figure out a simpler way to do that, or draw something yourselves.
No.4481
>>4477
Training the Zaryans to be even better at noticing the jew I see
No.4483
>>4482
>>4477
Gems but zoot delete these after they're added so offsiters cant just go to this thread to solve it
No.4485
>>4483maybe also not discuss this AS shartycucks are planning another failraid?
No.4486
>>4484
gem
No.4487
>>4483or maybe don't upload the images with names
captchacucks are so fucking retarded it's unreal
No.4488
>>4487yeah i should have thought about that
No.4489
send the images via mail to zoot
No.4490
can i put them in a catbox gallery (no filenames)
No.4491
>>4485>shartycucks>failraiding Those two things go hand in hand
No.4552
add agugu button that does nothing
No.4553
add a goon meter
No.4554
>>4553I don't know if I can datamine your goon level
No.4555
goon meter would make more sense on the booru, next to every post
No.4556
>>4554Zoot do this and rangeban every country that exceeds a certain threshold
No.4557
>>4556Zoot rangeban Israel and South America
No.4611
Condense the rules page, as the giant boxes for each section make them feel a bit overwhelming and it's easy to confuse since most chans use the colors as spacers rather than headers. Also, artistic nudity/naturism should be a clearer exception in some cases, maybe in a containment board (or just censor the genitalia and asshole, but not the nipples, since many countries allow legal toplessness and breasts aren't inherently sexual, like they don't have a sexual function, they just feed babies). And it would depend on the context, like if someone posts hornily about it, then yeah. But if not, respectful naturism/artistic nudity MAY deserve an exception. I don't care about the ladder as much, but muh SFW free speech, so I thought I'd bring it up thoughbeit.
No.4613
>>4611I don't think we need any of that artistic nudity here
No.4615
>>4611just curious, what kind of topics do you expect to come up here where we actually need those exceptions?
No.4616
>>4613On a site like this, perhaps not, since this site is probably too immature or horny about it. But under spoilers or a containment board, it could be worth trialing perhaps.
No.4617
>>4615Not sure. Sharing fine art is the most obvious one, like even Animal Crossing New Horizons has the Michelangelo statue or whatever with an uncensored genitalia. For modern photography and whatnot, it's a murkier area. The conversation about naturism is quite controversial, especially given how society is too perverted to handle it maturely. But the naturist community is one niche to consider when designing an imageboard, since I have yet to see an imageboard promote respectful artistic nudity or naturism. It's either coom or stricter than Animal Crossing New Horizons.
No.4620
>>4614Further grammatical adjustments.
I think this style of spacing may be better.
1. Rule
Explanation (sentence 1).
Further details.
No.4621
There is no need to post any kind of nudity on the zarty whatsoever.
No.4622
But I agree that the rules need to be changed. WTF does it mean to post porn "in educational context?" Pedo hands wrote those rules.
No.4624
>>4623Would rise minimum age to 20, don't want kids to stumble upon subhumans spamming porn or other awful stuff
No.4626
>>462418-year-olds are adults, not kids, you are deeply delusional.
No.4627
>>4624Bait or mental retardation call it
No.4628
>>4627legal adulthood starts at 20 in some countries
No.4629
>>4623Bretty good. I like it.
No.4630
>>4628In the last century, 16 year old was considered an adult, as was 14 year old in the Middle Ages. With the expansion of the scope of knowledge needed to develop one's mind, young people are growing up slower. Especially now that people spend years of their youth on the internet instead of living real lifes and developing their brains through experiance
No.4631
>>4623Does that mean you can't post drawn gore at all? Cause I got art I wanted to make involving it.
No.4632
>>462820 is the age of not being a fucking teenager anymore, 21 is the age agreed upon for drinking and smoking and stuff, and 25 or 26 is the age of brain maturity according to SCIENCE. It would be a way to completely eliminate 'teens from the imageboard and maybe filter out some of the cancer.
No.4633
>>4630Tsmt, kids have gotten a lot more immature due to the internet and social media. Even i'm effected by it myself, I wish the old faggots running our countries would realize that and up the age cause most places still have it at 16.
No.4634
>>4631I wonder the same as I enjoy historic, battalistic art which usually includes light gore
No.4644
I think the rules are fine as they are right now, no need to simplify them, it's good that we have nuance explained in the rules instead of just blanket statements.
We don't need "artistic nudity" on the zarty, which we all know will just come down to posting naked drawings of the girls. If you want to share artistic nudity, perhaps suggest that to ocgemerald, there is could be appropriate.
Also what the fuck are you even talking about that the age should be raised, are you retarded. I think the age should have stayed at 16 like initially suggested.
Mods, why are you even considering what a furfag avatar has to say about our site.
No.4645
>>4644No, we need blanket statements so mods can abuse their power
No.4646
>>4644The current rules are more wordy than a leftist meme and needlessly specific. Mods are not idiots and know what porn or gore is, there is no need to specify that any further and invite any kind of boundary testing.
No.4647
>>4644>If you want to share artistic nudity, perhaps suggest that to ocgemerald, there is could be appropriate.Zooooot do this.
No.4649
>>4644>We don't need "artistic nudity" on the zarty, which we all know will just come down to posting naked drawingshow does "artistic nudity" differ from just "naked drawings", sounds like a distinction without difference to me
No.4650
>>4649>of the girlsThat's the important part of the quote
No.4651
>>4650nudity is nudity, if you draw some other girls or men is it suddenly ok to post it?
No.4652
>>4632>>4633Biology would always stay the same no matter what happens. This is how we are made and always will be, even with the internet and all. It always has been past puberty (14) and always will be.
We already have laws protecting the youth so why limit them further? Let them choose for themselves, we can't force them. Stop infantilizing the youth
No.4653
>>4651youre missing the point here what if i post an image of a jartycuck/chud with a clitty meant to be humerous and not erotic
No.4654
>>4652If they act stupid then we tell them not to, they'll follow as needed. They aren't retarded, unless they choose to fall into the depth of depravity (gore/p fags), which in case it's all them
No.4656
>>4651depends on the content intention, but not here, the point is the dutch-cartoon imageboard allowing nudity, can only result in nudity of the sisters, which is an absolute no
No.4658
>>4649Artisitic nudity is when the artwork is not made for the sole intention of satiating lust. Old paintings back then had nude women in them, but they were used to emphasize female beauty as most of them were just standing in different poses. Porn is art that makes you horny by emphasizing genitalia or the boobs, it has no deeper meaning and only serves to cause the chemicals in your brain to activate.
No.4659
>>4656We could just specify that artisitic nudity is only allowed for characters above 18, though I think that would allow verafags to start drawing her nude.
No.4660
>>4653it always ends in this kind of kikery "if I post a clitty attached to this particular boogeyman it's not a clitty actually", just don't post clitties and you will be on the safe side
>>4656>>4658you can't know that, the mind reading technology is not there yet
No.4661
>>4660Nigga I'm an artist I can tell what's tasteful nudity and what's straight up porn.
Artisitic nudity is when genitalia and other female private parts are pushed aside to emphasize the female beauty or something else while porn has the focal point aimed at the private parts.
Though I don't think it should be allowed here due to anonymous imageboard degeneracy. ocgemerald.club is better imo.
Though I still dont
No.4662
>>4661Remove the last row i lost my thought
No.4663
>>4661all nudity is sexual in nature, what do you think makes it attractive or interesting in the first place?
No.4664
clothed drawings can still can be arousing so zoot please ban all the tnd zelling girls they are so OMGSISA please
No.4665
So vera is ok then? Noted I guess
No.4666
^champion of misunderstanding the point
No.4668
>>4663Yes, i forgot to specify that the paintings of back then had nudity as a set piece, an addition to the whole artwork which isn't the same for art that focuses solely on their nudity.
With artworks involving artistic nudity, the person can choose to ignore all of it and tunnel vision towards the nudity while porn shuts out all the other options and makes the viewer getting horny the main goal of the art. This can be seen in character designs too when people enlarge certain features in their characters to achieve a goonbait artstyle.
No.4669
Artistic nudity shouldn't be allowed on site dedicated to underage dutch girls cartoon
No.4709
IDs should be enabled by default on
>>>/brabant/ No.4775
>>4770You can add those yourself
No.4776
>>4709By default - no, as an option - yes, and maybe on the other boards too
No.4933
I think vpns should be unbanned again, here my case.
The purpose of the vpn ban is to stop the p spammer from posting more p, however not every vpn is detected in the vpn ban, and we've seen that the spammer posted p after the vpn ban so he has access to the non-detectable vpns, so it has had no effect.
Now this vpn ban does affect our userbase as I can imagine there is a portion of users not willing to post under their home ip, due to the risks involved of using a niche website, the vpn ban does reduce the posting of these users, which isn't good for the livelihood of the website.
Therefore, I think vpns should be unbanned
No.4934
>>4933Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, I noticed a little less faggotry but the same problems arised, I'll unban it later
No.4935
>>4933There was no 'p posted after the ban doe, you hallucinated that part
No.4978
>>4933they’re already unbanned
like I got the most basic vpn possible and it works
No.5022
>>4628If we're going by Dutch standard, Cinecheck, the real "artistic sex" such as in R-rated films and full frontal, genital-inclusive "artistic nudity" is 16+ and outright pornography is 18. As we allow mild gore, which falls between permission at 12 and 16, It would be safe to maintain the 18 standard. Depending on the local laws of the server hoster, I wouldn't be opposed to a drop to 16 so as to be more reflective of the work's background and intended audience. A minimum age of 20 is only strictly used in Bahrain at 21, and I doubt most of our users or servers are in Bahrain.
>>4641As pointed out almost 4 months ago, there were and still are too many ESLeralds. Generally, you don't want semicolons in lists. You aren't coding, and these are not full sentences. Likewise, full stops are to be avoided for this reason.
>No NSFW or sexual contentCut "too" in the first point or change it to "this includes posts without attachments". The second point should be "mild drawn gore is allowed".
>/q/ - requests and questions about the Zarty and associated websitesThere's ambiguity here. "Associated websites" may mean sites which are also administrated by the Zarty's admin or sites within the Soysphere.
>/qa/ - random content not belonging in the other boards"content which does not belong on other boards" is better. The content isn't in the boards like a container, it is on them like a surface. "Random" is superfluous.
>/zellig/ - IAZ and the zellig community;Zellig should be capitalized. It's standard for board titles to be capitalized while their shorthands are lowercase.
>/brabant/ - /qa/ but with flagsThis conflict's with /brabant/'s presentation. When I click on /brabant/, it tells me it is for "International Politics or something". "international politics and events" may be better, given the format so far.
>No hostile activityThis is an ESLerald, and the comma-parsed list attached to it would be better off as a list as show in the first two items. "No activity antagonistic to the Zarty or its users" then the bulleted list would be better.
>No degeneracy, including, but not limited toThis misses the mark. Your examples of it are split between promotion and engagement. It would be better to say "No engagement in, promotion of, or association with degeneracy including but not limited to" then a bulleted list. Your current sole example is sexual deviancy, but I've seen bans for Satanism, which I think falls under this rule and could be an example.
>No ban evasionThis should include a clause for clarity regarding VPNs.
>No doxxing"Doxxing" should be defined with the legal definitions of the US and country of the server hoster.
>No illegal content"Illegal content" should be defined as that which would violate US federal law and that of the country of the server hoster.
>No outside dramaThis requires some explanation as it may already fall under Rule 3 and may, if /q/ is also for the Soysphere, include drama related to the Soysphere. Is "outside" off-site or off-sphere?
No.5025
>>5022>If we're going by Dutch standardThank God we are not.
>Generally, you don't want semicolons in listsActually, it's the correct way to end elements of a list and is required if you were ever to publish an article, but I've found Australian government's style manual that says they shouldn't be used because they confuse their citizens, so I will remove them for the sake of all Australians on here.
>Cut "too" in the first point or change it to "this includes posts without attachments".It's not needed at all because of "content" in the sentence above, I will simply remove it.
>The second point should be "mild drawn gore is allowed".Yep, less words is better.
>There's ambiguity here.We are obviously not associated with frootcord websites, If someone comes to such conclusion, that's not my problem.
>"content which does not belong on other boards" is better.True.
>This conflict's with /brabant/'s presentation.The description is in conflict with its actual purpose. I've never seen a non-political thread moved out of /brabant/.
>This is an ESLeraldIt's not, but I agree it can be phrased better.
>Your examples of it are split between promotion and engagement.That's because it doesn't matter if someone engages in an activity or "merely" promotes it. It's the same thing.
>Your current sole example is sexual deviancy, but I've seen bans for Satanism, which I think falls under this rule and could be an example.It does, but it's pointless to try to enumerate every single case of degeneracy, there are simply way too many of them.
>This should include a clause for clarity regarding VPNs.What's not clear about VPNs?
>"Doxxing" should be defined with the legal definitions of the US and country of the server hoster.It does not, I know it when I see it, also afaik there is no agreement between american states as for what constitutes doxxing and whether it's legal or not.
>"Illegal content" should be defined as that which would violate US federal law and that of the country of the server hoster.It should be reworded to "no content forbidden by the rules of hosting provider" because of the reasons above.
>No outside dramaIt should be removed, I have no idea why Zoot created it honestly, but I think Rule 3 already covers all the cases it was supposed to cover.
No.5026
Reverse request: make me a file approval placeholder image
No.5028
Is there a reason the rules are getting changed? I feel like an explanation is in order for altering the rules, especially when the changes to the rules are only making them stricter. Not to mention the rules are somehow more ambiguous then the first rules we had. If you're going to change the rules at least bother to mention them all instead of half assing it.
No.5029
>>5028they aren't changed, just reworded, it's not the same thing
No.5030
>>5028and the reason is people keep requesting changes, had you read the thread, you would know about that
No.5031
>>5026we're not adding file approval
No.5032
>>5031no one said it will be turned on all the time
No.5034
>>5033snopes may need to fact-check your post because
>>5026 suggests we are adding it
No.5036
>>5029Plenty changed from what we originally had, not to mention the enforcement is stricter and there are more undisclosed rules
>>5030Yeah how about a statement from the administration rather than "someone requested something, read the 150 replies or something"
No.5037
>>5036>Plenty changed from what we originally had, not to mention the enforcement is stricter and there are more undisclosed ruleswhat changed is the description of rules, not the actually enforced rules themselves, the goal is to make the description a more accurate representation of reality, there used to be rules that were not stated anywhere, but it's no longer true
>Yeah how about a statement from the administrationSNCA
No.5038
>>5037>what changed is the description of rules, not the actually enforced rules themselves, the goal is to make the description a more accurate representation of reality, there used to be rules that were not stated anywhere, but it's no longer trueDownright false in every regard.
The rules are stricter with less leeway, drastically so if you remember the early days of the site
The enforcement is also less forgiving and with a lot more false positives (I'd fucking know)
The rule about frogs is gone even though it is still fully enforced
>SNCASICA
No.5039
>>5038>The rules are stricter with less leeway, drastically so if you remember the early days of the siteNot at all, people used to be banned just for saying they want to goon with the sisters, you have no idea what you are talking about.
>The enforcement is also less forgiving and with a lot more false positives (I'd fucking know)I didn't notice an increase in the number of bans. False positives are not a matter of rules, just of jannies making mistakes, if you find yourself banned in a middle of a raid, just make an appeal.
>The rule about frogs is gone even though it is still fully enforcedTrue, it disappeared – in August 2024. Also, rule 3.
No.5041
>>5039>Not at all, people used to be banned just for saying they want to goon with the sisters, you have no idea what you are talking about.And the bans were more forgiving. If you remember the april first /nsfw/ board, those who actually posted porn were banned by zoot for like a day, that shit wouldn't fly now, literally every ban is permanent. Also just speaking from experience, the kind of shit that used to be posted then would get you perma banned now with no appeal. The moderation was a lot more lax, as moderation on image boards should be. Overbearing moderation isn't conducive to an entertaining environment.
>I didn't notice an increase in the number of bans. False positives are not a matter of rules, just of jannies making mistakes, if you find yourself banned in a middle of a raid, just make an appeal.You're right that it isn't a matter or rules, it's a matter of enforcement and incompetence. I was banned for saying threatening to rape random women was zarty culture. Ban reason? Well I wasn't even given a reason, but the red text said "least obvious flase flag". This is the kind of thing that would never happen before: banning people for being edgy. And go figure the appeal took a day because whoever's so keen on banning people they don't like isn't as keen on preforming actual administrative duties.
No.5042
>>5041Well, I've just given you an example that people used to be banned for even less edgy stuff, but anyway what you have described is a people problem, not a rules problem. I rarely ban anyone and when I do, it's CP or gore or porn and in such cases the ban should be permanent (evendoe it's all VPN bans so it's just virtue signalling), last time I saw a frog it was a 1 week ban. My guess is that the jannies got lazy, permanent ban is the default and anything else requires writing down the ban length, but it's not something I would care about, I'm not going to fix someone else's bans because I'm not obsessed.
No.5043
>>5042You gave me one example, which is whatever, I can't remember every risque post made on the site either, but there's definitely a change that can be felt. Outta pocket posts used to be a gray area and sort of a toss up for what will happen (reflected in the rules at the time), take
>>>/zellig/13393 for example. This shit wouldn't fly today and there's plenty of other posts that straight up wouldn't make it off the ground if made now. You can search rapeable on /zellig/ and see the most recent post was a perma ban while the older ones were untouched. Browsing old posts also shows there was a lot more file deletion than bans and I remember a lot more timed bans rather than permas. It was just a different approach to moderation.
And the reason I bring up the false positives is to show the jannies have gotten emboldened to take undue action as further evidence to the shift happening, I wasn't attacking (You) in particular (although all jannies ARE trannise)
No.5044
>>5043I can't do anything more than I already do, do you have any wishes regarding the text of the rules instead?
No.5045
>>5044My grievances are with the rules, not how they are written. Though actually writing all the rules should be obviously superior to the alternative.
No.5048
>>5047Wanna talk about pedoposting, talk about the constant waifufag dribble of "love my wife I need to cuddle her and fall asleep together I want to kiss her she's so cute chudbros OMGSISA"
At least "rape racebait posting" is sometimes funny. Not that I rapepost, that's just another flavor of 4cuck waifufaggotry
No.5065
>>5041i only gave 1 day bans on that board, because i thought it would be a bit unfair to be infinite. It was a /nsfw/ board after all. I thought that there would actually be some goofers who would take it as literal.
Anyways, there were some periods where i gave stricter orders in order to minimize hornyposting.
>>5025>I have no idea why Zoot created it honestlyBecause people were complaining that they were getting banned/censored for "no reason".
No.5115
bring back outside drama
No.5150
>>5115ok i will
-zelig moderator
No.5206
harsher reactions against wifufagging
No.5207
wider acceptance for wifustraighting
No.5208
Formal declaration of administration's consent to the activity of MayaGODs on the site.
No.5215
Anyone who is clearly not a Zaryan needs to get the axe
Thirstposts get cracked down
Waifufagging is 'chan coal and it should stay down like its parent site, it worked when it was zellig x chud because chud wasn't literally the go to self insert for twitterfags
No.5216
>>5206>>5207>>5208>>5215those are not feature requests and no new feature requests will be accepted in the next 3 weeks because they just won't, ok?
No.5217
No one who is clearly a zaryan needs to not get the sword
Hungryposts get promoted
Waifustraighting is 'party gems and it shouldn't stay up like its child site, it worked when it wasnt zoleg x tranny because tranny was figuratively the no go crossover for twitterstraights
No.5218
>>5216technically they are, because they just are ok?
No.5219
>>5215>chud wasn't literally the go to self insert for twitterfagsThings that never were, chudjak has been self insert coal for years at this point. kys media illiterate nigger
No.5220
>>5219did you just disregard "for twitterfags"
No.5221
>>5220yes because it's irrelevant and I don't use shitter
No.5228
>>5221You may not use it, but xitterchuds use imageboards, so the point still stands
No.5232
I have seen the rules and they are a bit weird. Will edit them later.
No.5233
>>5232Rules are not a feature toot
No.5240
>>5233Probably, but there was a "debate" about them in this thread
No.5260
Rules have been updated. Let me know what you think.
No.5262
>>5260The rules are fine, it's just wordswordswords that feel unnecessary to include, but there's nothing wrong with it
No.5263
>>5262I removed one unnecessary rule. Also added some more information to be more clear about punishments and stuff like that.
No.5264
>>5263>can't even remember itDamn maybe it really was unnecessary
No.5277
>>5265Oh yeah, that one! I just integrated it into one of the other rules. I have no idea why it was a separate thing.
No.5746
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS please listen:
Add Media Pending Approval during 'mutt hours and disable it during euro hours. Would this work?
No.5747
>>5746just make it a switch like the captcha and enable when necessary e.g.. everyone is gone etc etc
No.5748
I have a better idea: rapeban everyone who posts on euromutt hours
No.5749
>>5746Would be a win for these people, I doubt so
No.5752
>>5751Erm sweetheart the sub is obviously a joke
No.5760
Readable captcha (I am partially blind)
No.5880
add a goon meter
No.5881
>>5842wont most of them be like "16382827482" anyways
>>5880it would never surpass 0% DOE
No.5882
>>5842>search for an image>drop your image here???
No.5883
>>5881it would always show FULL
No.6077
>>6076Forced cord coal xitter immigrate hands posted this
No.6178
So I was busy at the execution list and I found this:
>Banned for posting a banned image: NIGGER NIGGER
Marge?
No.6221
>>6220Isn't it already? I swear I made sure it was
No.6222
>>62217,81:1 so you are almost there
No.6223
>>6222Fuck I must have messed something up
No.6225
>>6224you are going in some direction, not necessarily the correct one, but I guess you just need more time