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I wouldn’t call his drawings porn, porn is art designed to illicit sexual arousal, and don’t think that’s ever been Grim’s intentions. His goal is most likely to be shocking and over the top, and his work has succeeded with that goal, even if it goes into extremely taboo territories. Or maybe I’m not addicted enough to pornography to understand why his art would be arousing to people.
It's still artwork that depicts sexual activity, I'm not sure that whether it arouses anyone or not changes anything here.
hummm i dunno i dun care hmmmmmm ehhhhhhhhhh idkkk
They are MINORS
They are SISTERS
Xe draws them MASTURBATING and getting themselves into SEXUAL SITUATIONS. Even if no one cranks it to xis art (and lets be honest, no one would crank it to Rod's drawings either), xe still posts sodded, vantablack niggerstone that goes against the core message of the site being no gooner/coomer/lewd sex shit with the sisters that somehow xe gets a pass for drawing other edgy crap I guess.
<wordswordswords I transHATE double standards.
i like his art doe and i dont wanna browse thru /co/ to find it.................. selfish little kankerneger...........
>inb4 wordswordswords I AIN'T READIN ALLATTTTTTTT
When I originally made the thread, it was supposed to be a collection of reference material that me and my friend was supposed to use for a ChudGunner video. But since the project was finished a few days after I made the thread, I decided to let it stay as a reference guide to his style as more Zaryans added more of his work in.
It was never really meant to be a Grim Mymy thread (even though it seems like it), but more so a place to get reference from since I never really browsed the /co/ threads to see his work, and asked others to do the sharing for us.
In my opinion, I think spoilering the content that could cross the line is the best option. I know the Zarty isn't retarded with knowing the content and their context, and his works should be taken with a humoric grain of salt. He's probably one of the best artists out there in a place consumed by instant gratification which ruined 4cuck since its birth. But just remember that anything that could compromise our values, whether from /co/ or the sharty, must be put into a halt before it could corrupt young minds, and learn from those who have gone past us
rest in piece, grim mymy thread, i loved posting on there and seeing everyone’s reaction to his art
I ɅM arguing for unprincipled exceptions.
>I ɅM arguing for unprincipled exceptions.
Weird way to treat a guy who has a tribute on the front page on this site and who inspired the Schoolocaust game, of which this site is the exclusive host
>>1914
rent free + it did streach the rules sometimes and we had to compromise a bit. eventually we decided to archive it, since its original purpose was fulfilled long ago
>>1915
the schoolocaust game was not inspired mainly by the gim mymy guy (as if he created every school shooting joke).
non the less, he has some cool art. the problem (yet again i have to mention this) is that the posts in that thread eventually started to become more and more problematic. it was a hidden /co/omer thread at one point.
You guys can look at the archived thread as much as you want with all the art, similar to >>1912
>it did streach the rules sometimes
Deal with the offenders, don't throw the baby out with the bath water
>the schoolocaust game was not inspired mainly by the gim mymy guy
It was, specifically by this art piece
if zarty mods can't handle 1 (one) ban evader, then yes, it will die in a few months
Nia too
>>1926
>Deal with the offenders, don't throw the baby out with the bath water
I did, i removed the thread. it was too much of a nuisance.
Again, you can check the thread in /arch/ if you wish to check something.
>It was, specifically by this art piece
idk about that. i know that the effect that shows up when you shoot your gun was 100% inspired by grim's artstyle. idk about the rest of the game and to what extend. it's not like there is a whole section in the pilot episode about Mymy comiting a "schoolocaust", right?
ig the dev can answer this, if he happens to lurk by.
ewww unity.... gross...
kys shill, godot was the most unpleasant experience I've ever went trough. The node system is unintuitive, the scripting language looks like p*thon, it lacks basic functionality like sprite masks and oh the raycasting... That's what made me drop it completely, the RAYCASTING. Not only is it as performant as a dead horse, the syntax itself looks hideous! It also has dubious web support so I just had to drop it for this project. Open source sounds nice until you realize you get what you pay for and with this shit you get a handicap. I'd rather get assraped by unity jews than engage with this piece of garbage
now they’ve completely banned reposting his work, but Grim being the troll he is would probably get a kick out of causing this much of a ruckus, so i guess getting his art (and just his art specifically) completely banned is the greatest accolade he could receive.
true. Extremely distasteful ragebait but borderline draconian rules
I get it, at this point. It's a tiny site, people are compelled to post everything, it's easier to have a blanket ban than to have to comb through for 'p all the time
>it's easier to have a blanket ban than to have to comb through for 'p all the time
that’s not how that works. he’ll post at most three Ongezellig drawings in a day. the mods don’t have to “comb through” anything.
>>4606
all the mods have to do is just say “this guy posts a lot of nsfw stuff. if you see it, don’t repost it here”. banning someone’s ENTIRE body of work because he did something wrong is nothing short of draconian censorship. it’s especially egregious on a site like this which is known for allowing edgier content in the Ongezellig community, and yet you’re not allowed to post some guy’s work because “he did a heckin bad thing”.
because he makes good art. morality isn’t a factor in determining the quality of someone’s work.
because they crank their twps to his works or want his posts to work as epi gateway
<NO, YOU CAN'T BAN MY FAVOURITE PEDO ARTIST, WHAT WILL I GOO-ACKKK!!!!
Sometimes artists can incorporate their ideologies or morals into their artwork doebeit.
that still doesn’t diminish the quality of said work. lefties can agree that Triumph of the Will is a good movie despite its messaging. misogynistic dudebros and incels still enjoy American Psycho despite it being a feminist film.
sorry xis, but we were called pedos on the farty by nusoicacas and that collectively traumatized us so we have to overcompensate with a puritan shtick
Grim is a part of zellig history, let him remain in the past, no need to bring him into the present anymore
Because I don't want to associate with a pedophile, this isn't like associating with chuds or political extremists, we're talking about someone who actually drew PORN of a TODDLER. Anyone who thinks otherwise can kindly go to hell and get hanged from his feet
Holy fucking JEW you want us to look past the amount of unhinged 'p xhe drew of the sisters? You get off from his recent drawing of agugu you retard??
>you want us to look past the amount of unhinged 'p xhe drew of the sisters?
yes, that’s what we had always done until this week, look: >>>/chive/745
his nsfw art will take away from the quality of his other art. you can like the art and dislike the artist.
drawing actually genuine cp is a step to far to simply ignore
that crap could be ignored to a certain degree, but raping a baby was simply too much
What were you lot zelliggers thinking back then?! More known drawags have been sacked for far less than that, just look at fucking yos-
>Every drawfag drama devolves into yosack drama
Nvm
>BAAAAAN EVERYTHING
no fuck that, you solve the problem by not making it a problem, which seems counterintuitive but it works trust me
If we followed this logic impjak should be banned because once some 'cord embedded 'p in an imp video
>it’s especially egregious on a site like this which is known for allowing edgier content
this site was SFW from the start. Nazi stuff represents the userbase's real values and beliefs, not just a nihilistic attempt to shock and offend. schoolocaust was a once off seeing as it was suggested by the cartoon, violence seems like a grey area in the rules
Ev&doe i'm here and nazi ideals goes against my main belief but i still make nazi ocs
But you ought to have some chuddy ideals right? Even if they aren't specifically those of the nazis, you're a chud and nazism is a symbol we use, not because we agree with everything they thought but because these symbols set us apart in a bold manner.
I'm not a chud nor that right-winging, i'm a centrist though so I do believe in stuff like nationalism or tradition. But my main ideals are on objectivism, the unchanging trvth and fact.
>Nazi stuff represents the userbase's real values and beliefs
>we zaryans are rw xitter tourists lol
even if you aren't very right wing, you shouldn't appreciate the jews regardless, objectively they do a lot of fucked up stuff that's ruining our nations and traditions.
Centristfag fence-sitter award. Pick an ideology and stick with it, not just side with who you think's winning.
I don't side with the winning side because they rely on manipulation of clueless people to spread their misguided and or biased ideologies and morals. I pick objectivism over everything else, a person's ideology can change overtime depending on how they experience the world and I don't want to be put lumped into just one group of people.
I guess I say I'm a centrist as in I don't identify with either side as I believe that we should all try to find the objective, unchanging trvth about something rather than staying dormant in our ideologies, which will lead to more needless discourse.
Ideologies are about preferences not facts, but otherwise they are complete snca that only autistic teenagers obsess about. Never read anything ideological or political in your life, learn actually useful skills instead.
>rely on manipulation of clueless people to spread their misguided and or biased ideologies and morals.
Just say Jews, no need to skate around it.
>I guess I say I'm a centrist as in I don't identify with either side as I believe that we should all try to find the objective, unchanging trvth about something rather than staying dormant in our ideologies, which will lead to more needless discourse.
Let me tell you something. Do you want the truth? Guess what, you'll never get it. Remember, the only truth is what the winning (or most popular) faction has to say, not what happened. The truth changes all the time, depending on who you ask. So my question is, how do you suggest we find the truth if everyone has their version of it, and it can seldom be agreed upon? Your truth differs from mine, as does everyone else.
I'm not him, but one thing is there is one universal truthful origin, that being God, however in this mortal realm we are unable to reach the truth, perhaps get a very close approximation but not truth, and that's just talking about very simple stuff like the laws and workings of the universe, anything that has the even slightest degree of a social element to it is too clouded to easily declare truth. The best thing we can do is agree upon what is false, but that is subject to politics too.
Functionally, something is said to be true if it benefits the actor who declares it true in some way; material, spiritual, psychological.
Allah does know the truth- that is true, and Allah shows mankind the truth, as does the Christian God, through scripture, it is up to us to seek it out. But, isn't religion inherently political, or is it just something political parties use to gain more support?
Which is why I say there can be a close approximation, but not fully as things are dependent on fundamentally subjective creatures, humans
Yes, a man can't know the full, divine trvth. Ok, I understand where you're coming from. You aren't a centrist, you see what politics for what they are, a world affair, not one of the divine, but of mankind.
What now? I've never had a debate where we ended up agreeing.
We never had a debate, I'm not the centrist, I just put my own input on the subject.
this is the same justification leftists use when tearing down statues of historical figures, and i don’t most people here agree with that kind of behavior.
Grim’s work has been celebrated since almost the beginning of this site. i think he’s in the top three greatest Ongezellig fan artists, possibly even number one. his work has inspired a few other artists too. no amount of “immoral drawings” will ever take away from that.
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>leaking
Any self respecting right winger supported east european decommunization and destruction of soviet statues, sometimes you just have to erase parts of history that are hostile to your ideas and future
the analogy of historical statues makes no sense for your point, a statue in a public space means you celebrate his legacy, if that legacy is not worth celebrating anymore for whatever reason, the statue should be put in a museum, our museum is /chive/
If we do not know the unbiased truth then we can continue to find it. Fake truths are what's taking down today's society, influenced by people's subjective opinions. These are not truths, these are lies that are spread around as a truth.
Humans are ignorant in most cases, but they don't actively seek out the actual truth but are being lead by fake ones, leading them to fight againsts others who are spreading their own fake truths.
Socrates says to be certain in your ignorance, don't try to hide the fact that you know nothing or make up fake truths to cover up the flaws in your ideology. We as a species need to continue learning and changing our perspective about things because if we dwell in those fake truths, it will ultimately cause discourse and havoc.
I'm refering to things with an objective truth, subjective topics are subjective, if we do not know the objective truth then we should admit as such instead of hiding from one's ignorance and continue to work on finding out that truth.
it isn’t the best analogy i could’ve made, but i wanted to convey how ridiculous i think this situation is. the problem isn’t that they’re removing references him (i’d be fine with that), it’s that the mods have flat out banned the sharing of his art.
a better comparison would be to artists who are also bad people. should people not be allowed to discuss and share Roman Polanski’s films? he raped a teenager after all.
Grim had made and continues to make great drawings which people should be allowed to repost as much as they please.
>EVENDOE THE ONLY ART HE'LL DRAW NOW WILL BE MORE AND MORE 'P
>PLEASE PLEASE PLE-ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!
We shouldn't give even more fame to such disgusting subhuman, banning of his art was a good choice
>yeah, we should totally lock and move his thread, but also allow everyone to repost his art everywhere else
look everyone, an idiot spotted
Unironic mossad agent attempting to deplatform us by lobbying mods to allow pedophiles
would you niggers please stop depicting 4cucks as hanging mymys?
Maybe it's one of the jannies rebelling against Grim ban and trying to change it by pretending to be an innocent little Zaryan. Zoot can we get early life check on jannies?
>>4788
>doesn't remember misha
jews have run this gay website since the beginning
>>EVENDOE THE ONLY ART HE'LL DRAW NOW WILL BE MORE AND MORE 'P
he’s drawn that kind of stuff before, we’ve always ignored it and focused on the good stuff up until now. this mindset that we have to completely disregard him is a new one.
>>4783
Grim is just an anonymous guy on 4chan. he has no online profiles and no ways he could benefit from his work. banning or unbanning his art affects him in no way.
>>4784
i didn’t say i supported locking the thread. i said i was fine with people removing references to him on things such as banners and the Zarty’s PixelPlanet region.
I think a reasonable compromise is the zooru. There the drawings he makes that aren't egregious are allowed to be posted there, since it is the case for other artists we don't appreciate and also the the zooru is more of an archive of images than anything. I don't think his drawings have a place on the zarty itself anymore like how we've barely reposted stuff from the other co artists. Yet I doubt the people who reposted his artwork are willing to to so now regardeless.
Zooru shouldn't become an safehaven for pedo's art. Every Grimart should be destroyed or falsified, every post should be rewritten, every picture should be repainted, every thread and filename should be renamed, every date should be altered.
also everything worth saving was saved already, tell me why anyone would need to repost grim's art right now
because he’s still making good art
also banning art not because of its content but because of the identity of the artist is ridiculous
Too much work, but the reasonable compromise is to remove any new posts with his works, rework the coalie and one of the banners.
>IT'S NOT LIKE I TOTALLY GOON TO THIS TRANNY PEDOPHILE ART DUDE THIS IS LITERALLY RULECUCKING
Ask the question, what value does sharing his art here bring, why would we want to see his artwork after what he did?
Going with your analogy, would you still enjoy polanski's films if it wasn't a random he raped but a close family member of yours, thats the type situation we are dealing with.
>people enjoy films by a jewish pedo therefore we should allow artworks by a 4cuck pedo
Who the fuck is this "argument" supposed to convince?
and further would appreciate it if your friends shared a film with you created by the guy who raped your sister suppose, I don't think so.
>I have formed a family tier emotional attachment to these characters, no I am not delusional.
it’s supposed to convince people who believe art can be separated from the artist.
agian, banning art not because of its content but because of the identity of the artist is ridiculous.
Banning someone's art just because he is a pedo is a good and rightful thing to do
>Anyways I just commissioned more loli po-ACKACKACKSCKACKACKACKACKKK!!!
Probably not, we had a gussy thread and he drew much worse shit
yet you bring up the analogy of real rape, I just adjusted it to make it more accurate to the situation, yes we have an emotional attachment to ongezellig that's why we are here and care about this more than just wanting to be any other fotm slop
What if you posted a perfectly benign soylita with a lollipop? What do you think will happen?
Actual /co/pedo nigger in the log. Kill yourself right now. TRVE zaryans treat the characters akin to family, they are precious
Not the guy who made the analogy, but that's just retarded lol
I don't see how you could be in a community about a dead show, dead meme without some kind of attachment
>YOU WILL REPOST THE PEDO'S ARTWORK
>YOU WILL LISTEN TO MY WHATABOUTISM
>YOU WILL TURN INTO A 4CHANNER
>AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY
It's allowed but no one posts it because there's not tranny pedophiles who self insert as 'lita, so there's no need to do anything. When it gets posted its usage is normal
I saw a soylita thread on /qa/ here a few hours ago that got deleted doe
Wrong answer. Only today a guy eas banned 4 times only because he posted soylita. And that's what MegaMymy was banned for too.
well this isn't some random literal who artist making unrelated art, this is a guy who created something that was of great offense to the community and the outrage is justified
Comparing real life family rape with shitty ms paint ragebait is retarded and you have to be delusional to even consider it analogous in that analogy (and he's not even saying you should enjoy the rest of his art, just that it shouldn't be completely banned)
>hur dur /co/ pedo argument
I'm one of the people who pioneered zellig puritanposting back on sharty's /qa/, I'm not defending grim (he's reprehensible) I'm just saying you sound like a faggot
I'm not saying it is real the same as genuine rape of course not, but in the case of the analogy he made my amendment makes it more comparable to how it actually is for us.
that image was obviously sexualized. it was deleted for that, not for being Soylita.
Definitionally true, he made the art to get a rise out of people, doesn't change the fact that it's vile
>>4833
But it's still a moot point and makes you sound unhinged
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Also apparently the messages of the guy who made the analogy are getting deleted so how's that for draconian censorship, not even allowed to argue anymore geg
>the messages of the guy who made the analogy are getting deleted
he's clearly deleting them himself.
Are you saying that as a janny or just guessing? Because I don't see why he'd keep making replies just to delete them
If he's deleting them himself then that's some next level psyop tactics, fooled me
well, we can get a confirmation of my intuition. Mods, is this true or not
>Just ignore it
No fuck you nigger I am not going to do that, you guys are too complacent with these people being given a place to exist as long as we ignore them. These people should not be here in the first place, Grim made some fantastic artwork but he really overstepped this time, there's no excusing, there's no amount of convincing that could convince any self-respecting Zaryan of letting his stuff back here. Doing that means being fine with what he does. It's clear people are not fine with it, no one should be. Maybe in the future things will change again, but this is for now, the correct thing to do
I do see a reason, there has been the /co/ pedo lurking us and he revealed himself obviously during and after the bob thread incident, since then he's been spamming porn of the zellig girls, this is another attempt of him to undermine us
Fair point but I still think the reaction is literally 1984. From the banner to /v/, grims influence is plastered all over the site, especially old oc, and while most admiration has probably turned to disgust and feelings of betrayal (as it has for me) I don't think you can, or should, just erase his involvement with zellig.
>>4843
i only deleted two of my messages. i’m used to deleting stuff because this website is usually slow moving and i can resend the message before another reply comes. i’m sorry for being autistic.
>>4848
>this is the first time Grim drew actual 'p
no it isn’t. it was public knowledge that he had drawn Maya having sex with a child, and that didn’t stop people from continuing to enjoy his art. once again, this mindset that we have to disregard all his work is a new one.
>Doing that means being fine with what he does
do you think every fan of Roman Polanski’s films are okay with him raping teenagers?
I'm here because I think Mymy is edgy and cool, not because she's my precious daughteru or something
And for the same reason his thread got locked (even for lighter stuff like the Robin Barten drawing), now he's banned because he did it again and drew even worse stuff
This. Agugu is literal delusion and we reap what we sow for not cutting off that cancerous growth in it's infancy (pun intended)
We'd need to achieve a perfect balance between rules and freedom of posting. Zoot is willing to change rules and take feedback. Who knows what the fuck might happen in the other splinter, it could end up like the jarty or something worse.
apologies for accusing you, it's just that he has been spamming porn and immediately archiving it, the soylita post of today was also his.
i've never used /co/, how long does it take to acclimatize to being a pedo?
>drawn Maya having sex with a child, and that didn’t stop people from continuing to enjoy his art
so people were less outraged by maya raping a kid? Whatever could cause this double standard (oh nonono, orwellbros are we shotafags???)
Never if you're normal, instantaneously if your skin is the color of coal
is maya having sex with a kid exaggarated heavily? the most i saw was a maya demon with hands coming out of it grabbing a kid
no, there was an unambiguous one of her embracing him with her legs spread
I don't remember exactly, but there was intercourse drawn.
Anyways, our values evolve over time we no longer tolerate this kind of behavior.
Grim has always been our enemy. We have always hated Grim. We have always bannes Grim art
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Geg I actually typed it, but the new autofilter must have ruined my pun
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>>4786
>NOOOOO STOP HANGING MY FAVORITE UNDERAGED GIRL
Obvious grim is obvious
if massa drew agugu 'p we would truly all get demoralized and die out forever
the mods never gave an explanation for why this was necessary or how it'd improve the site. i can only assume that these actions were purely performative and an attempt by the moderators to demonstrate how 'moral' they are.
UNBAN GRIM YOU DESPOTIC FUCKERS
The zarty doesn't need him nor his """art""" anyways
I'm aware of every time you've asked this. Grim threads are in fact banned. You can only post his non-brimstone art in already existing art dump threads, but not make dedicated threads about him.
blame the admins for banning general threads dedicated to his art, forcing me to bump random threads that his art's relevant to.
just let it go unc, co died a year ago 😂
zaryans... i just found the agugu comic... i. i cant...
the gr*m poster should just jump off a cliff already
Grim should be rightfully forgotten and damnatio memoriaed off the internet. When he eventually kills himself perhaps his artstyle can be salvaged
Gussy is a special case, we all know what he is but he actually seeked help (allegedly) and MOST IMPORTANTLY DIDN'T DRAW RAPE CP
I feel the other way, gussy is a weirdo who's actually into it, grim is just a nigger edgelord oldfag larper who's trying to live up to the /v/ goes to the movies comic or something
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