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Are these ideologies tuff?
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>Are these ideologies tuff?
>https://redflood.wiki.gg/wiki/Accelerationism#Surrealism
>L larps
>Accelerationism lost
>Monarchy VVQN
>Autocracy VVQN
>ABOLISH REALITY
>Acceleratiosnim is a tranny ideology, it is based off OTL (Our TimeLine) Futurism which was basically "Abolish all traditions for the sake of new stuff", it is literally the average modern leftist opinion but with a coat of violence (Futurism later developed into Fascism after removing all the anti-civilization nonsense).
>France even has a Acephale path, which was basically a French sex cult created by a pervert who thinks the world revolves around "sexual energy" (as noted by his book "the solar anus")
>>ABOLISH REALITY SO YOU CAN BE A REAL WOMAN
>Don't let aesthetics decieve you and find a better larp
>i love accelerationism. why is it bad?
>>>18409
>try reading books, engaging in discussions, and stepping outside your comfort zone.
>>>18407
>Well nonsense ideologies are funny like nrx
>>>18413
>nah, you're way off on that, dude. the humor's not about low iq; it's more about the absurdity and surprise factor. your dismissal feels a tad unnecessary.
>>>18370
>I don't see how Accelerationism necessarily lost; it's still an idea worth exploring.
>>>18411
>huh? that's an odd way to put it, you gotta define "nonsense" first for me if you're grouping it with nxr
>>>18408
>It's sort of like radical Islam where it praises martyrdom over life, and acts as if our current progress in society means nothing.
>>>18417
>This almost always involves destruction of the environments created by current day societal beliefs, to try and attempt to enact the accelerationists' new world order
>>>18415
>because it's kinda useless, ideologies are usually "do X and Y in order to achieve outcome Z that we actually care about" but in case of accelerationism there seems to be a mismatch between means and goals, and the goals aren't what anyone really wants anyway. it's just pure larp hidden behind an inscrutable wall of wordswordswords
>>>18418
>you have no clue wtf youre talking about dude lmao
>>>18420
>Accelerationism is about speeding up the current systems into collapse so new systems can try to be constructed, That'e what I think accelerationism is, if you have another view then lmk
>>>18419
>>>18421
>you both wrong af, lys barker whatever that means is dumb because why bother trying to change anything when it all just collapses in the end? your country shit doesn't mean jack if you ain't got a clue about what's gonna happen next. accelerationism sounds fun but wtf do they actually want and how are we supposed to achieve that nonsense? both of you sound like lost little kids whining about made up problems when there's more important stuff going on in the real world. grow the fuck up or whatever, just stop with the stupid opinions you can't back up with actual facts or reasoning. this is boring af and so are you.
>>>18423
>is everything ok? you don't really seem ok
>>>18419
>>>18421
>listen up, you two are fucking wrong about everything. the ukrainian guy is being a shitty nationalist for shits and giggles but so what? accelerationism makes literally zero sense if everyone agrees there's no point in it. both of your opinions are as valid as saying "do absolutely nothing because doing anything will ruin everything." you're both idiots.
>>>18425
>ah ok you are a proxyfaggot understood, as for the accelarationism bullshit, idc sorry
>>>18425
>>>18423
>Horrible quality of bait
>>>18425
>Are you retarded?
>>>18425
>What do you have to input into this thread? Stop just insulting people nigger
>>>18430
>stop calling me nigger stop pretending ur not the stalker here fix ur own fuckin issues
>>>18431
>infinite reppeys generator?
>nigger nigger nigger
>>>18422
>Accelerate towards the nearest BBC
>(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
>>>18433
>Why are all shitalians like this? Also, nigger nigger nigger. Imho the shitalian was banned unjustly. Isn't it just a teasing? I hope he's not gonna be banned forevuh. What do the mods can say about this?
>Btw the ukie seems to be the right one in that discussion above. Just saying.
>>>18434
>It was an unjust ban
>I'm the most italophobic chud on the site and have almost always been such, I've been one since September 2024 and everyone knows how obsessed I've been with them since then, and even I can see the ban was overall quite unfair. And once more again I hope he's only temporary banned.
>>>18437
>Hmmmph well it seems he got banned for ban evading not for being a clown… Uh D:
>>>18437
>>I am the most antishitalo
>Welcome back shittoko I see you upgraded from being germanicpilled to being a slav
>>>18439
>Maybe we could be friends with him, who knows? Hah. Though I don't like his preferences in females… Ahem.
>>>18437
>Nigga you sissyslav you ain't safe in the 4th reich
>https://redflood.wiki.gg/wiki/Accelerationism#Surrealism
>L larps
>Accelerationism lost
>Monarchy VVQN
>Autocracy VVQN
>ABOLISH REALITY
>Acceleratiosnim is a tranny ideology, it is based off OTL (Our TimeLine) Futurism which was basically "Abolish all traditions for the sake of new stuff", it is literally the average modern leftist opinion but with a coat of violence (Futurism later developed into Fascism after removing all the anti-civilization nonsense).
>France even has a Acephale path, which was basically a French sex cult created by a pervert who thinks the world revolves around "sexual energy" (as noted by his book "the solar anus")
>>ABOLISH REALITY SO YOU CAN BE A REAL WOMAN
>Don't let aesthetics decieve you and find a better larp
>i love accelerationism. why is it bad?
>>>18409
>try reading books, engaging in discussions, and stepping outside your comfort zone.
>>>18407
>Well nonsense ideologies are funny like nrx
>>>18413
>nah, you're way off on that, dude. the humor's not about low iq; it's more about the absurdity and surprise factor. your dismissal feels a tad unnecessary.
>>>18370
>I don't see how Accelerationism necessarily lost; it's still an idea worth exploring.
>>>18411
>huh? that's an odd way to put it, you gotta define "nonsense" first for me if you're grouping it with nxr
>>>18408
>It's sort of like radical Islam where it praises martyrdom over life, and acts as if our current progress in society means nothing.
>>>18417
>This almost always involves destruction of the environments created by current day societal beliefs, to try and attempt to enact the accelerationists' new world order
>>>18415
>because it's kinda useless, ideologies are usually "do X and Y in order to achieve outcome Z that we actually care about" but in case of accelerationism there seems to be a mismatch between means and goals, and the goals aren't what anyone really wants anyway. it's just pure larp hidden behind an inscrutable wall of wordswordswords
>>>18418
>you have no clue wtf youre talking about dude lmao
>>>18420
>Accelerationism is about speeding up the current systems into collapse so new systems can try to be constructed, That'e what I think accelerationism is, if you have another view then lmk
>>>18419
>>>18421
>you both wrong af, lys barker whatever that means is dumb because why bother trying to change anything when it all just collapses in the end? your country shit doesn't mean jack if you ain't got a clue about what's gonna happen next. accelerationism sounds fun but wtf do they actually want and how are we supposed to achieve that nonsense? both of you sound like lost little kids whining about made up problems when there's more important stuff going on in the real world. grow the fuck up or whatever, just stop with the stupid opinions you can't back up with actual facts or reasoning. this is boring af and so are you.
>>>18423
>is everything ok? you don't really seem ok
>>>18419
>>>18421
>listen up, you two are fucking wrong about everything. the ukrainian guy is being a shitty nationalist for shits and giggles but so what? accelerationism makes literally zero sense if everyone agrees there's no point in it. both of your opinions are as valid as saying "do absolutely nothing because doing anything will ruin everything." you're both idiots.
>>>18425
>ah ok you are a proxyfaggot understood, as for the accelarationism bullshit, idc sorry
>>>18425
>>>18423
>Horrible quality of bait
>>>18425
>Are you retarded?
>>>18425
>What do you have to input into this thread? Stop just insulting people nigger
>>>18430
>stop calling me nigger stop pretending ur not the stalker here fix ur own fuckin issues
>>>18431
>infinite reppeys generator?
>nigger nigger nigger
>>>18422
>Accelerate towards the nearest BBC
>(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
>>>18433
>Why are all shitalians like this? Also, nigger nigger nigger. Imho the shitalian was banned unjustly. Isn't it just a teasing? I hope he's not gonna be banned forevuh. What do the mods can say about this?
>Btw the ukie seems to be the right one in that discussion above. Just saying.
>>>18434
>It was an unjust ban
>I'm the most italophobic chud on the site and have almost always been such, I've been one since September 2024 and everyone knows how obsessed I've been with them since then, and even I can see the ban was overall quite unfair. And once more again I hope he's only temporary banned.
>>>18437
>Hmmmph well it seems he got banned for ban evading not for being a clown… Uh D:
>>>18437
>>I am the most antishitalo
>Welcome back shittoko I see you upgraded from being germanicpilled to being a slav
>>>18439
>Maybe we could be friends with him, who knows? Hah. Though I don't like his preferences in females… Ahem.
>>>18437
>Nigga you sissyslav you ain't safe in the 4th reich
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>>>18440
>Xe liked 'zellig after all
>Xe liked 'zellig after all
>>18434
it's probably a tempban. No way nigger's last brap was BBC. "Random" racebait in quality threads is bannable for whatever reason.
it's probably a tempban. No way nigger's last brap was BBC. "Random" racebait in quality threads is bannable for whatever reason.
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>>18454
Death by BBC
Death by BBC
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>i need your seed
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How are you doing?
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I'm fine, it's been a peaceful day
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>>27889
I looked like this all day
I looked like this all day
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Great
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heheh ca ca
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Chapter 8 of 10 Dutch Days is out. Predditors are eating it up even though it fucking sucks
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>TROLL LOL!
>IF YOU DONT LIKE SOMETHING YOU MUST BE LE TROLLING!
>IF YOU DONT LIKE SOMETHING YOU MUST BE LE TROLLING!
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TROLL LOL!
IF YOU DONT LIKE SOMETHING YOU MUST BE LE TROLLING!
IF YOU DONT LIKE SOMETHING YOU MUST BE LE TROLLING!
>>128397
r/wholesome users after their thremboeth BBC cuck session
r/wholesome users after their thremboeth BBC cuck session
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new shirtjak
fuck i meant to post this on soyaking thread. jannitors can you move this to that thread
>>27896
I almost thought it was a Mymy shirt and I died a bit on the inside thank Zoot
I almost thought it was a Mymy shirt and I died a bit on the inside thank Zoot
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test
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How dare you do this??? Posting NAZ on my precious dutch aryanime imageboard??? It's not like I'm envious because I'm too afraid to post NAZ images on the site bbuuuut... uhm it's just not like this okay?
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Refute the image
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>>18396
The spaniard is too white, Spaniards have a swarthy complexion
The spaniard is too white, Spaniards have a swarthy complexion
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Who do you think the first Zaryan was? And I don't mean on da kway, I mean on the islamic slum known as /co/, while personally it was fun to believe that there were Zaryans like us all the way in 2018 and with subsequent, recorded, instances of 'zellig appearing on the kway only after a couple of years, it is more probable that these were some sort of ancestors to the average chuddy zaryan. Considering /co/ has always been one of the more prominent libtarded blue boards it is also safe to assume the conditions for the jump to /qa/ were met when /pol/ got to it just around 2020, thus prompting like-minded chuds to begin our slow dominion over this dutch cartoon
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>Because the author of it is obsessed
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the dutch east india company was founded on this day 423 years ago
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this is so 2023
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Wich tfr path is the most tuff? For me it would be Klaus Shwab's World Goverment
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I thought you were speaking german for a second. Anyways I will give my opinion if someone buys me a new cpu
>>27881
Patriot front is less glowing than literal school shooters geg
Patriot front is less glowing than literal school shooters geg
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>tfr
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Does Massa have ADHD ximself? How did he portray it so accurately?
>>128297
Massa is an autistic retard like us with that strain of autism which usually doesn't get diagnosed, think smarter than Chris Chan, hence why it comes natural for both him and us to see a mirror in Ongezellig and for him to portray it. Him growing up is actually a big part of why Ongezellig cannot be continued because once you go from that kind of autism to being 30 years old you're most likely not going to understand what made it great in the first place
Massa is an autistic retard like us with that strain of autism which usually doesn't get diagnosed, think smarter than Chris Chan, hence why it comes natural for both him and us to see a mirror in Ongezellig and for him to portray it. Him growing up is actually a big part of why Ongezellig cannot be continued because once you go from that kind of autism to being 30 years old you're most likely not going to understand what made it great in the first place
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Yet another soy school terrorist this time in Chile, Calama, and he also used a knife and this time he actually killed people
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>>27867
Or have a joke school shooter. You see, Mymy used a nerf gun. A zellig school shooter should also use a nerf gun. Write the manifesto and everything, and then go to school with a nerf gun.
Or have a joke school shooter. You see, Mymy used a nerf gun. A zellig school shooter should also use a nerf gun. Write the manifesto and everything, and then go to school with a nerf gun.
>>27869
the italian kid was posting tcc larp edits with mymy. the mexican shooter wasnt publicly into zellig or the soysphere to my knowledge but he was still in adjacent communities on ‘tok
the italian kid was posting tcc larp edits with mymy. the mexican shooter wasnt publicly into zellig or the soysphere to my knowledge but he was still in adjacent communities on ‘tok
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>>27871
It's safe to assume they're all part of the same group, I mean this guy exists and I seriously doubt he genuinely posted here
It's safe to assume they're all part of the same group, I mean this guy exists and I seriously doubt he genuinely posted here
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Hi zaryans, here to say thanks for helping me on my campaign against zelligzone and its pedo cabal.
The main pedofags have gone into hiding with rumors that djp acked
I had been gathering info, catfishing and getting spies in there since november so it’s nice to know they won’t come back so easily
While i’m waiting on screenies for a few extra fuckers i’m exposing it might be a while.
On a side note, continue to support Lidly through this tough time
Total Zaryan Victory, hope i’m making doxeralds with you retards again soon
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The main pedofags have gone into hiding with rumors that djp acked
I had been gathering info, catfishing and getting spies in there since november so it’s nice to know they won’t come back so easily
While i’m waiting on screenies for a few extra fuckers i’m exposing it might be a while.
On a side note, continue to support Lidly through this tough time
Total Zaryan Victory, hope i’m making doxeralds with you retards again soon
Your King of SNCA - Crowley 1 replies omitted.
/brabant/
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>when the liberal says the woke nonsense of happy holidays instead of the based and christpilled merry christmas
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What did I just watch
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What do you guys think of the increasing number of attackers using ongezellig imagery? For example, Gabriel Mutti, Hernán Cristobál Meneses, and Desmond Holly?
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>>128261
Don't worry the feds are already working on another terror attack zaryan
Don't worry the feds are already working on another terror attack zaryan
>>128270
Solomon was involved with the 'lig? I thought he was a retard soyteen who thought it was coal
Solomon was involved with the 'lig? I thought he was a retard soyteen who thought it was coal
>>128291
The schoolocaust is mentioned in his diary along with drawings of BT and Coco I think
The schoolocaust is mentioned in his diary along with drawings of BT and Coco I think
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Mewgenics is the new flavor of the month but it's a gemmy game by the same creator as The Binding of Isaac. Troons also hate it because they ack when hearing anything problematic or unwholesome surrounding da game. o algo
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How do I become an honorary Aryan?
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>>18279
So SNCA I don't even remember that the flag looks like that
So SNCA I don't even remember that the flag looks like that
>>18303
It doesnt. The website doesnt show the Coat of Arms in the flag for some reason. It also should me more sky blue
It doesnt. The website doesnt show the Coat of Arms in the flag for some reason. It also should me more sky blue
>>18329
Vichan (the software this and many image boards run on) lacks coat of arms for flags, so even Ecuador has the same flag as Colombia geg
Vichan (the software this and many image boards run on) lacks coat of arms for flags, so even Ecuador has the same flag as Colombia geg
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Zaryans, it's time for another 2-3 months of pvre vnfiltered avtism because Part 2 is being worked on
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>>127738
Oh my the jannies validated mx by banishing this clittard!
I do this and say this.
>>128224
Xe doesn't understand the value in caring for a small thing and place that no one else understands but us
Xe doesn't understand the value in caring for a small thing and place that no one else understands but us
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How do I make a tulpa of Mymy? I wanna enact total Mymy care and affection or somethong among those lines
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This website supposedly turns you into a woman and it's intended for troons, but all it does is make you wait 30 seconds and then a shitty ass text with "You are now a woman" appears on the screen, do trannies REALLY
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https://turn-me-into-a-girl.com/ 1 replies omitted.
It's shooting trannybeams into your eyes and subliminal messages to try and get you to adopt their ideology
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QNOTHER VICTORY. TRVST THE PLQN
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Rest in Power
>>18296
The man who fired the police in Odesa was killed during arrest
The man who fired the police in Odesa was killed during arrest
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>>128044
There's always going to be a steady flow of people who like to make these wholesome reddit gemeralds, after all we are the biggest protectors of this beloved dutch mineral
There's always going to be a steady flow of people who like to make these wholesome reddit gemeralds, after all we are the biggest protectors of this beloved dutch mineral
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Hi Zaryans. Lidly here, namedropping for the last time with a SNCA post (+ a Mymy drawing so that it's not NAZ). Since I will stop creating content for Ongezellig for the time being, that probably also marks the end of my involvement with this place, at least for now. It didn't feel right to leave without also formally saying goodbye to this controversial space that undeniably also played a big role in my past projects. Despite the fact that I don't see eye to eye with probably the majority of people on here and the general culture of this board, I don't regret my (indirect) involvement with it. Ignoring the ancient rape threats, marriage proposals and the fact one of my crashouts was made into a copypasta, I am grateful for the support and feedback (You) all have given me. I am grateful for the few people from here that first reached out to me on Twitter and helped me understand more about the innerworkings of this place and taught me that things aren't as black & white as they're often made out to be. I don't think (most of you, at least, those who belong here and don't LARP to make you guys look like a bunch of goonbrained pedos) are bad people, even if I do disagree with a lot of things you do. That is fine. I know you guys care about keeping the community safe from pedos and creeps and oddly enough it made me feel safe to see how much you guys hated the people that generated NSFW AI images of me and others.
>Lidly space
I had a lot of fun messing around with you guys indirectly by putting references to the Zarty in my first comic. Despite the fact that people tried to steer me away from this place, I don't regret trying to find the good in (almost) every place. It was something I had never experienced before and it will definitely remain a core memory.
>Lidly space
Thank (You) for everything, Zaryan. Take care! 44 replies omitted.
>Lidly space
I had a lot of fun messing around with you guys indirectly by putting references to the Zarty in my first comic. Despite the fact that people tried to steer me away from this place, I don't regret trying to find the good in (almost) every place. It was something I had never experienced before and it will definitely remain a core memory.
>Lidly space
Thank (You) for everything, Zaryan. Take care! 44 replies omitted.
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>>128104
yes its real o algo asi
yes its real o algo asi
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>>127740
The only outsider that wasn't a drag to have around.
The only outsider that wasn't a drag to have around.
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How big is your soyjak folder
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>>27827
Rapeson is a gem doe if you post it you might get a retard sneeding about it
Rapeson is a gem doe if you post it you might get a retard sneeding about it
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>being low on soyjaks and having trannies living rent free in my head (getting tortured like the heckin matrix simulation)
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Absolutely no fucking morals and I need more assistance in the exposing and doxeralds
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>>27842
See him on the list of doxxes but I can't find the evidence he drew that stuff
See him on the list of doxxes but I can't find the evidence he drew that stuff
>>27843
On its twitter maybe? If he's enough of a fag he deleted them but I clearly remember that he is a yurifag, also generally a soyboy that should not be here
On its twitter maybe? If he's enough of a fag he deleted them but I clearly remember that he is a yurifag, also generally a soyboy that should not be here
>>27840
waiting for the screenies to come back via the source, her internet was cut off due to the war in iran so, bare with them.
but deksam deleted their account, sooo we can assume its partially true
waiting for the screenies to come back via the source, her internet was cut off due to the war in iran so, bare with them.
but deksam deleted their account, sooo we can assume its partially true
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>american ground invasion of iran
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>>18113
I just want to see stupid kafir goyim suffer
They either forcefully take the strait and lose thousands of servicemen in the process or they negotiate with iran and nothing ever happens, the strait will open up either way
I just want to see stupid kafir goyim suffer
They either forcefully take the strait and lose thousands of servicemen in the process or they negotiate with iran and nothing ever happens, the strait will open up either way
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I wish ww3 happened already.
>>18282
>belg flag
Hello Maya it's your dad Ravi send your... well I'm not gonna continue the joke line because the janjans aren't fond of fun and will punish me. Finish it yourself I guess.
>belg flag
Hello Maya it's your dad Ravi send your... well I'm not gonna continue the joke line because the janjans aren't fond of fun and will punish me. Finish it yourself I guess.
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Testing
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This Pole is the GOAT♥️
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>>128023
just a complete non argument
we went from self inserting and playing dolls with wojaks is gay to its not gay because cobson to okay cobsons only use is self insert coal but thd soyjak wiki is a mistake because it probably says this too
just a complete non argument
we went from self inserting and playing dolls with wojaks is gay to its not gay because cobson to okay cobsons only use is self insert coal but thd soyjak wiki is a mistake because it probably says this too
its as if im right while you just keep trying everything you can to discredit me instead of what im saying to justify your gay play pretend wojak barbie playtime
>>128025
you are not right, you are just another person with an opinion
you are not right, you are just another person with an opinion
[a] is le bad because [b] are doing that, but it's le good because [c] are also doing that, but it's le bad because [d] considered that bad few years ago but it's le good because [e] share the same opinion and they are le bad
i hoped you will notice the pattern but you are just not very bright
i hoped you will notice the pattern but you are just not very bright
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>Wey estas en contra de la fuggen hispanchidad mane, yo soy un e-crusader de xochimilco y voy a salvar europa de los segarros y la islamizacion wey yo me void cfffff
Why do spanish rightoid praise latinxs so much, and why do they larp so much as wholesome chungus e-crusaders? 11 replies omitted.
Why do spanish rightoid praise latinxs so much, and why do they larp so much as wholesome chungus e-crusaders? 11 replies omitted.
>>18229
Because the main problem with immigration is that we import "people" with completely different values and culture that hate us for our history
When places like Spain import Latinxs they are able to import immigrants with similar culture and values that are friendly to the Spanish people (same thing with Portugal and Brazilians)
Because the main problem with immigration is that we import "people" with completely different values and culture that hate us for our history
When places like Spain import Latinxs they are able to import immigrants with similar culture and values that are friendly to the Spanish people (same thing with Portugal and Brazilians)
>>18247
The problem is not culture the problem is race. Spaniards are retards.
The problem is not culture the problem is race. Spaniards are retards.
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Epstein Fuck Niggers
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>Epstein Fuck Niggers
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the body was to short
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When the club is finished setting up, i think I will quit all my other socials and exclusively post on there
>>27831
Well it's inevitable since you have to make an acc to post, but hopefully the janjans will filter it out
Well it's inevitable since you have to make an acc to post, but hopefully the janjans will filter it out
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Cococraft WQN.
>>27808
Keyed!
Keyed!
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rate my new avatar of mymy chat, i know its a 10 out of 10 babes
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I enjoy this post and if not for the new roblox update would rate it a 8/8 please add militant mymy or do the 2 other sisters next
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why the fuck is this on /brabant/?
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Wich tfr faction is the most tuff, i would say dugin's eurasia, klaus shwab's world goverment and atomwaffen (i do not support any of them irl btw)
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ITT we make geggy edits of zeltybraps
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>>27805
<Here you go! Xhe sure does look like a true Lesothoan now! Anything else you'd like me to do?
<Here you go! Xhe sure does look like a true Lesothoan now! Anything else you'd like me to do?
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test
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>>27166
>oh my rand did you just mention my wholsome libertarian soycorder chudtuber? heil hoppe to you to xista!
>oh my rand did you just mention my wholsome libertarian soycorder chudtuber? heil hoppe to you to xista!
>reddit essay youTubers but they know soyspeak and say niggers and kikes
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