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>leftism is when thing I dont like
you are a collectivist, socialistic bastard. Lefties like you deserve the rope
<n-no you are the hecking bluepilled socialist collectivist!!!!!1!
can you niggers shut the fuck up kek
>leftism is when thing I dont like
you are a revolutionary, noviopic degenerate. Lefties like you deserve the rope
No. He's da leftist fr.
Yes. But I'am right unlike him.
Hitler was a revolutionary you retarded fuck, revolution has got nothing to do with left-right. It is an economic divide, and you are a braindead, socialistic collectivist retaded statist dictatorship-loving Zigger, while I am a capitalism-loving individual.
rapefugees from the middle east and from suriname are a lot more common thoughbeit
I'm whiter than you, you are a collectivist socialist sissyboy who will get replaced by arabs; I am a real westerner who loves capitalism and hates the state
>Hitler was a revolutionary
Yes.
>revolution has got nothing to do with left-right
Revolution = left.
>It is an economic divide
Also political.
>I am a capitalism-loving individual.
Proudest goy award. Keep believe in that and you will never become an actual individual.
>I'm whiter than you, you are a collectivist socialist sissyboy who will get replaced by arabs; I am a real westerner who loves capitalism and hates the state
I refuse to believe anyone in Brazil is actually white and born there at the same time
Anarcho-capitalism is still part of the false collectivist-individualist dualism. They are both sides of the same coin. But you are too stupid to see this, because you conflate an organic social structure with collectivism.
is this why ziggers are so prone to serving retarded totalitarian states? They are so stupid its not even funny
I hate agreeing with a French and a Duginist, but that's kinda based tbh.
it amazes me how little people understand AnCapitalism and yet how much shit they talk about it; no you dumb nigger, AnCaps are not against social structures, they are only against coercive social structures retard
>t. brownoid favelanigger whose entire political knowledge is based on a single ancap yt video
I refuse to believe we have an actual French here and not yet another Russian/Italian on a VPN
Actual whites do not serve anything but their values, physical and spiritual. But a little egocentric brainwashed mongrel like you can keep thinking that money and Da Market is everything.
>Actual whites do not serve anything but their values, physical and spiritual
This is so ironic coming from the dictatorship boot licker. Also, how does any of this go against AnCapitalism?
>they are only against coercive social structures retard
So it is against social structure when you don't like them. This cannot be done to a social organism without damaging its integrity.
>claims he's super ultra hard on the right
>spews the most leftist ideals ever conceived by man
>doesn't address the Jewish problem
>citycuck, lives in a rich secluded area which distorts the reality of things
>brown
>you should read [SNCA author]
>supports Ukraine
do you know what coercion means? I am all for natural hierarchies; unnatural hierarchies would be your relation with the state. Anarcho-Capitalists are against initiating aggression, thats literally it, anything else stems from this principle, it's not that deep
>wanting the international jewish elite to rule over us in a shitty dystopia isnt globalism, goy
>Dictatorship is everything (((they))) told me to be a dictatorship
I've already got that, you could not repeat you love mass-media and stuff.
>Also, how does any of this go against AnCapitalism?
AnCapitalism is an anarchy. Anarchy basically goes against white values like family, ethnicity, christianity etc.
Don’t worry about me, I am somewhat well read and remain critical. My biggest take aways are observing how real people express their ideas instead of me just reading the theory on it.
>Anarchy basically goes against white values like family, ethnicity, christianity etc.
what? no, how stupid are you? You niggas don't know the basics of AnCap 101 and say shit like this, damn... Just watch the goddamn video, this is the shittiest easiest intro to anything-ancap, perfect for you low-iq mongoloids: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tijcZCpemcs
>t. discovered ancap/libertarianism/meme ideology yesterday
Watch how he'll start to bring up Ben Shapiro's talking points now
>no hecking unnatural hierarchies besides the one between the jewish oligarchs and their goyim cattle
Destroyed with facts and logic or however the market is freed
You don't need to read anything ideological actually, ultimately what you think the world should be is a moral subject and you should be enough of an adult to have your own preferences.
esl shitskin thinks he is special because he can watch two yt videos kek
>are against initiating aggression
Initiating agression is a part of the nature. Natural hierarchies created solely by contract are a liberal lie.
One is an ideology that makes moral claims on how society should be organised, the other is an economic system that arises when you allow private ownership.
>Actually everyone is right, nothing matters we're all made from heckin' blown up stars and there's nothing after death
Technically none, as Capitalism is an economic system based on private property, free markets and voluntary choice, however the word has been bastardized to its core, and we now have concepts such as state-capitalism. People think countries nowadays are capitalist, but they are not, they do apply some capitalistic ideas, but they are actually cronyist/corporationist. Anarcho-Capitalism is just pure, real, capitalism, although it also has the philosophical base that explicitly rejects the state entirely, since capitalism cannot exist with a state (since they are inherently coercive). So the answer is that they're the same, but in reality (considering the popular, midwitt use of the words) capitalism can exist within a state, while anarcho-capitalism specifies that only a stateless society can be free of institutional coercion and enjoy true capitalism
Liberals are mostly progressicucks who hate conservative values
>>5844
>One is an ideology that makes moral claims on how society should be organised
Its socialism isn't it?
>>5846
>>5847
>posted it again award
Maybe it's just capitalism? Then what does "anarchy" have to do with it? What a cancer
>>5831
>noooo you wroooong look at this vid the (((smart guy))) will explain you how to live!
I can explain you myself how any anarchy goes against western values. Let's start with a family.
Institute of a family always developed together with a state. Families are a form of hierarchy as well as state is one. Family relations do not imply any "capitalism" elements, traditional family is a thing that people like you could call a "collectivist leftist bullshit" or something, I hope I don't need to explain why or your family is Jooish and made you pay for a dinner while you were a baby phisically so you can't get it by yourself?
Next one is ethnicity. In anarchy there is no borders. I think that is enough.
As for Christianity, God grants power to monarchs and wants us to follow his commandments. In ancap there is no monarchs who rule in the name of God and there is no law that provides christian morals.
This is the ultra-simplified and ultra-short explanation for a 50 iq libtards like you. Ancap is as leftist as ansoc or anprim so get educated o algo.
the natural part comes from the natural rights of men. We are against coercion, and coercive hierarchies are unnatural in the sense that they violate mens natural rights.
I have a question, what is the ancap solution to an institution becoming coercive as it grows and gains too much power.
Anarchy doesn't mean what you think it does I'm pretty sure
Or what happens when in the anarchy of capitalism, someone decides to establish a group which controls by force what everyone does?
And he also has the heckin' reddit militia, will you plead him to stop?
Capitalism is kind of an economical system(not really, this term was made up by commies) and ancap is an anarchy but with free market or something as I can understand.
Then who will rule the country? Definitely not a farmer
In anarchy there is no rulers. That's why it will never work.
>>5850
families are natural hierarchies, anarcho-capitalists are as pro-family as one can get, they agree that no one but the parents should have as ay in how they want their kids to grow and learn. Families are voluntary associations built around mutual care and dependence, I don't see why you think AnCaps are against that. Traditional family isn't collectivist leftist bulshit, its only that if the state forces it.
>muh borders
yes, state-enforced borders don't exist, this doesn't mean ethnic or cultural groups vanish. We totally allow for private borders, again; read Hoppe, you'll like him, he's the guy who converts braindead mindless NatSocs into AnCapitalism. Anyways, if people want to preserve their ethnic group and culture, not only are they free to do so in AnCapistan, they can also discriminate; remember, ancaps are 100% pro freedom of association
>muh monarchs are kangs
so you're a monarchist and you don't know Hoppe? I might as well call this whole christian monarch point retarded (it is), but Hoppe argues for monarchies within a state, I don't see your point.
These terms are overloaded. There is socialism as an ideology (postulating economic equality and bs like that), there is socialism as an economic system (state ownership of business and centrally planed economy), and there is socialism as an epithet (it's socialism, because... it just is, ok?)
this, but imagine a trillion-dollar market with thousands upon thousands of corporations all over the world in multiple different sectors
>natural rights
Universal natural rights are post-Enlightenment abstraction. Rights of the individual men must never go above duties towards the organic unity of society, and only the latter is and was always truly universal.
the zigger mind cannot COMPREHEND society without a country, even when pointed towards anarchism he just assumes country with no leader, ziggers are so interesting
Taliban is not AnCap at all. The closest countries we've had to AnCapitalism would be early America and medieval Iceland. Nowadays, I guess Switzerland, Liechenstein and the USA, but none of them get close, really.
>You live under ancap rule
>Everyone can now buy whatever they want
>Jews, now free from the shackles of a controlled government, lobby together to buy large quantities of prime resources and outcompete everybody else, indirectly ruling over the goys
>There's no laws whatsoever, and every part of the land is ruled by the most powerful entrepreneur, with some areas having outstanding laws, which often differ so vastly from one another that you're at risk of getting imprisoned for no reason from the roaming hired soldiers
>You, a medium-sized capitalist, live with your wife and daughter, in the 30 meters square of land which you've had to meticulously inch your way over the past years
>You live in an area made of similar small/medium time entrepreneurs, fending off contenders for the time being
>One day a bigger force simply decides to occupy your territory, using their Capitalism™️ bought militias and weapons
>Your wife is sold in the human trafficking market and so is your daughter, while you're forced to sign a contract which will force you to become an employee of your new ruler
>You have to work 18 hours a day for a shitty pay and you're only allowed to consume company approved goyslop
>You never see your family again
Tell me again why this shitty kiked ideology is even being discussed
Congratulations, you just created a confederation of thousands of tiny tribal states under the guise of security companies. This will work for a while until an ambitious strategist like the Frederick the Great or Alexander the Great comes along and unites all the small states within a confederation against another confederation.
>>5862
When they gained prominence is irrelevant, the idea of natural rights (life, liberty and property) exist to protect individuals from aggression (doesnt matter if it comes from other individuals or collectives). This simply acknowledges that each person has intrinsic value and autonomy; saying that the duties to the organic unity of society should supersede individual rights is a braindead justification of collectives ruled by corrupt tyrants, this is what has led to literally all shitty regimes in the world, there is no such thing as the good of society.
Also, who the fuck defines organic unity? Societies are composed of individuals with diverse values and goals, any ideology that seeks to force people to conform to an abstract sense of unity is retarded and fails. AnCaps recognize human nature, and we also recognize how retarded most ideologies are, they are literal cults, just like statism. If you want unity, itll come through voluntary association, not coercion. Why should your arbitrary definition of organic unity of society be the supreme goal? The assumption is neither universal nor self-evident. It is simply collective slop
where did you get statesfrom? Statists really can't read...
>I don't see why you think AnCaps are against that.
Because ancaps almost never support traditional families. Capitalists want people to be like people of the New World, that are nuclearised and have the only goal to consume. You can say whatever you want about how much you appreciate traditional families but in fact people with money want only to get more wealth however they can. Not like it's only bad, but without a state no one be able to oppose them. There will be no balance.
>this doesn't mean ethnic or cultural groups vanish
It does. Capitalists are the biggest internationalist as we can see in practice. They prefer niggers and chinks because they are cheaper.
>so you're a monarchist and you don't know Hoppe?
Yes.
>I might as well call this whole christian monarch point retarded
Because you are a leftist libtard.
>but Hoppe argues for monarchies within a state, I don't see your point.
Never read him but probably will when I get enough of free time.
evendo you're mindbroken over an African socio-economic system
>you are mindbroken becuz you dont agree to what (((they))) say ancap is and not ignoring their deeds and shieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
>Everyone can now buy whatever they want
>Jews, now free from the shackles of a controlled government, lobby together to buy large quantities of prime resources and outcompete everybody else, indirectly ruling over the goys
In AnCap, competition prevents monopolies. No one, absolutely no one, regardless of their ethnicity, can rule without state-backed coercion. Voluntary exchange ensures anyone can challenge market dominance, the fact you believe that that would somehow be a viable strategy is funny. Also funny how you don't realize that the state is the ultimate joo-tool
>There's no laws whatsoever, and every part of the land is ruled by the most powerful entrepreneur, with some areas having outstanding laws, which often differ so vastly from one another that you're at risk of getting imprisoned for no reason from the roaming hired soldiers
wrong. AnCapitalism relies on natural rights, those are the laws. Private defense agencies are inherently incentivized to uphold justice, otherwise they'll go bankrupt on the market. Random imprisionments would not happen, not only are they reputationally bad, but people have guns in AnCapistan - any gun (depending on your community of course, assuming you live in a private society)
>You, a medium-sized capitalist, live with your wife and daughter, in the 30 meters square of land which you've had to meticulously inch your way over the past years
>You live in an area made of similar small/medium time entrepreneurs, fending off contenders for the time being
>One day a bigger force simply decides to occupy your territory, using their Capitalism™️ bought militias and weapons
Again, I get it that stupid NatSocs don't understand basic economics and incentives, however, without states, violence is expensive and inefficient. Private defense agencies and market basedarbitration make peaceful negotiations always be more profitable than war. The state centralizes power and has a monopoly over it, which is why wars happen; it is profitable and they have no competition in their nation to challenge their monopoly (unless a revolution happens, which is really rare and will just install another government in the state)
>Your wife is sold in the human trafficking market and so is your daughter, while you're forced to sign a contract which will force you to become an employee of your new ruler
slavery violates the NAP. Simple as that. Human trafficking markets also exist today, the only difference is that they would be easier to catch as the 1000 different competing agencies would have incentives to do so. Nowadays all we have is 1 organ who rules all, it is SO easy to run human trafficking rings.
>You have to work 18 hours a day for a shitty pay and you're only allowed to consume company approved goyslop
contracts under duress are invalid in AnCap.
>You never see your family again
you are assuming lawlessness, anyone can create a dystopian scenario, dipshit. This does not take into account any AnCap value or goal
Is ancap a comminism 2.0? Hope you will not commit revolutions with (((their))) help as commies did.
>braindead justification of collectives ruled by corrupt tyrants
>Why should your arbitrary definition of organic unity of society be the supreme goal? The assumption is neither universal nor self-evident
>the duties to the organic unity of society should supersede individual rights is a braindead justification of collectives ruled by corrupt tyrants, this is what has led to literally all shitty regimes in the world
All great civilizations until degenerate modernity were created , developed and maintained through unity that was coersieve to their enemies and did not care for their invididual rights. Organic unity is not a goal but a natural reality of all healthy non-degenerate and non-decaying societies.
>All great civilizations until degenerate modernity were created
If you think so, then turn off the internet immediately
Weren't they? Humans created culture and technologies so why do you think this is wrong? Maybe I just misunderstood you.
you said that you dumbfuck, I just repeated it so you understand how stupid your take is>>5883
the more liberal, the more we advance. Don't mix liberalism with progressism, two different things. The best nations in the world are the ones closest to AnCap ideals. The periods in which we advanced the most were the ones with the most capitalism and free-market. Europe was capitalist, it exchanged it for Social-Democracies, and it is now filling up with arabs and stagnating economically, soon China will overtake them. Sad decay of a statist population who forgot what it means to be an individual
You're just describing it as some kind of commie utopia ignoring impossibility of your bullshit theory, that's why people compare it to communism\socialism.
I remember one guy who was against society or system or whatever, but i forgot his name
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