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Hello ITT i will eksplain why capitalism sucks
1 - it divides a nation
Capitalism by it very nature creates inequality and thus division where there should be not. It diviadies a nation around arbitrary lines of capital ownership creating internal divides and thus poisoning our national vitality.
2- it can put inferior as the superior.
Capitalism can result in sytuation where a kike or a nigger is richer and therefor superior to an Aryan.
3-It misplaces the prioryties.
Capitalism has only one prioryty - profit. Therefor it will do watgever nesesery to make it. If it is profitable to combine multiple familly farms into one huge niggerweed plantation it will do so.
4- it is a wesel of jewish controll.
Capitalism is a jewish tool for controling Aryans. Jews controll every aspect of capitalism, trying to remove jew from capitalism is imposible and fuitile. The whole system need to be destroyed.
5- it leads to internationalism.
Capitalism is fundamentaly international system.
It will always push for free trade, mass migration and cultural colonization.
+many more (like alienation from means of production, stealing surplus value)
I agree!
tsmt but everyone has to be a wholesome one struggle third positionist o algo now
>Nazi Germany, USSR
geg, kek even
>China
@Zrok, how many billionaires does """communist""" China have?
>post mao
oh you mean when they instituted a bunch of market reforms and the country immediately saw huge economic improvements? that’s what you’re talking about?
>>22433
Remember Jack Ma?
Before covid he was everywere in media, one of the richest men in the world, a face of new China. But all it did was to criticisize CCP once in 2020 and he is gone, didint hear much from him since.
In US its the oposite its the bilioneres like Elon Musk tellig goverment what to do.
It just shows that there is not much diference between chinisee bisnesman(or Nazi before) and Soviet Manager.
Also share of chinese "private" buisness is decresing and now stands at ~30%
While china is not strictly Comunist country, its not capitalism either. Its something in between and im fine with that becouse im not a comunist, i belive any economic model is fine as long as it serves the nation, state and society.
Economy is a tool and chinas one is simply better
Socialism/Marxism is flawed yes, this is why it needs to be refined until it works. Capitalism is just condensed human suffering, Corporatism is alright but class collaboration will not work in the long run. The bourgeois will never be capable of nationalism.
I would like to clear up my economic belives. Im not comunist, im for a mix betweem disrybutism and corporationism.
Distrybutism means distrybuting means of production to as many small owners as possible. For egsample banning Fast food chains sellig toxic american food so that family restaurants can thrive it their place.
I belive distrybutism to be truest form o socialism, in capitalism worker is a slave to capitalist. In Comunism he is a slave to a state. Only in dystrybutism he is trully free, since he is master of his own destiny.
But there is one obvious limitation to dystrybiutism.
We cant depend on small buisnesses to produce steel, cars and smartphones. So where only big buisness can function efecivly we use:
Corporationism.
Corporationism belives that diferent social classes need to work together insted of fighting for mutual destruction. Its Right wing answer for Marxist class war, Corporationism is Class peace and coperation.
The way i would achive it is to split company ownership (shares) into 3 groups:
1-workers - they are the ones who make the company run and they spend half they waking hours working there. They deserve representation so they cen demand fair wages and good working condition.
2- Capitalists - there are the ones that care about on thing only, that is profotability and its not bad as long as they dont get full controll.
3- state - its here to care for everyting the other two dont, that is for egsample: Enviormental protection, economic development, strategic consideration.
Each of these Corporate groups would get 33% share in running buisness, and any CEO would have to be elected democratily by consensus of at least 2/3 of them.
Doesnt this kind of economy sound more fair and free? Its best of both capitalism and socialism.
I only scrached the surfuce here, i could tell much more about how such state would function.
i asked everyone, including nophono, nococo and even nomaya, and no one cared about your niche economic beliefs. sorry, maybe try going back to pol.
>>22438
Cant agree fully
Every society needs elites, a society without them has never existed. Even Soviets had them.
That incloudes economic elites - those who manage and alocate capital.
The problem with them curently is twofold:
1- they are allowed to run rampant.
Their power is unchecked they are free to exploit common man as much as theiy plese. They take part in most degenarate of activites (eg. Epstein) and face no conseqwances.
2- who they are.
Current economic elites are either one who inherited it from their parents, Coroprate drones who made their money thru livelyhood of obidience to Judeo-Capitalism or tech bros who invented some kind of machine to seduce goys into obidience.
The answer to that is creation of new elites from scratch. Money should be controlled by those who deserve it and can be trusted with it. That is - braves soldiers, brightest sicientist and inventors, hardest workers or simply those who build their own small buisness into something great from schratch.
To be a buisess owner is a responisbility no diferent that being a Politician or a General, and it should be treated as such.
Maybe try reading once, not my fault you cant even read nor comprehand one page of text
Brabant is literally the worst board, just move to /pol/ on sharty, and stop poisoning the zelig community
>>22443
Well of course we need leaders, and leaders should be allowed to have more than the masses however they must earn it.
I also feel like it should mainly apply to politically important people, business owners should be elected but they shouldn't earn much more than a regular worker.
"limited nun like the ultra Natural third passion" i really dont want to play the esl card here, but i have no fucking idea what you ment.
Even if Communism had nationalism, it's still limited unlike Third Positionism in which people are free from internationalism.
I do this and say this, Nacional socialism is the best way, the only right way
>>22464
This is exsacly what im saying. Im not comunist since comunism is inherently internationalist.
Im an dystrybutionist+coroporatist which is prety much definition of third positionism
Can you give an example of inequality and why things should be equal?
>It diviadies a nation around arbitrary lines of capital ownership creating internal divides and thus poisoning our national vitality
Free markets aren't arbitrary. Tax brackets are.
Everything else I do not have much of a problem with. Also, are you a determinist or indeterminist?
>>22471
>Hello Romanian
I agree with you on a lot of points
Capitalism at least for the private sector should exist. It insentivizes people to work and improve their lives. If everyone earns the same wages whats the point of even trying to improve or do anything at all. Competition in the private sector is what drives technological inovation forwards and is in my eyes an inherantly good thing.
I don't have problems with people being richer than me, Its a perspective. monney is not everything. it can't buy happiness neither should it be able to buy power over other people.
The main problem is corruption, rich people can exist. That is fine. The problem is that they can use their monney or political position to take freedom away from the individual whilst being above the law with nobody too punish them.
>>22471
>Can you give an example of inequality and why things should be equal?
Most peoples fate under capitalism can be such example.
Someone who inherits fortune, works in international financial corporation or created Tiktok/onlyfans type "invention" - all of these people in a capitalist society will be very rich hovewer all of them have not contributed nothing to society, insted they hurt it. Those people are societal parasites.
in contrast to them stands common worker by that i mean farmers, factory workers, constructiuon workres, soldiers, policeman and small buisnessman. those are the people make the world run, these are the man that keep they world functioning often at the cost of their own health, and how do we thank them? We dont, we pay them like shit, we dont even build them a monument or name a street after them.
The economic rewards should be distributed in accordance to each contribution to society
This is the inequality of capitalism.
capitalism is a system where the parasite thrives while the host suffers.
>Free markets aren't arbitrary. Tax brackets are.
there is not as thing as truly free market - only "free" markets exist. a price, production and demand in a "free" market economy are set by things like - shady dealings of oligarchs, Monopols, international banking, foreign wars and current mood in tel-aviv.
And why we would want a free market any way? more often than not we need things that are not obviously profitable. we need roads to remote places, long term investemts that see return after decades like nuclear powerplants and afordable housing instead of luxury willas for milionares.
all of these things arent profitable, yet are needed.
if you were a capitalist with a buch of money to spend would you rather build a nuclear powerplant which would start making money after 20years
or
fund another Onlyfans/ invest into venture capital/push space X into one trenbiliongazylion valiuation
>>22471
>Also, are you a determinist or indeterminist?
Im Interermist
I believe a individual is able to achieve anything he sets his mind to with strength of mind (will to power)
centuries happened within years because one man believed it, set his mind to it, and millions of like minded man with the same determination and strength of spirit followed him.
I understand that some things are set in stone, men with no legs will never run, however if his will is strong enough he can become a para Olympic champion in no leg swimming.
Also i believe random chance plays a huge role in ones life.
and most importantly of all I believe this is the only mindset worth having, being deterministic makes you complacent.
>>22472
I believe private sector should exist only to a point. when it comes to small business it is simply a human right and a fundamental element of freedom to own a restaurant/ store/ mechanic shop - that freedom is currently entrenched on by Capitalism small family businesses get overrun by international corporations.
and i dont believe that everone should make the same amount of money, money is a reward that should be distrybuted to those that earned it by improving society - that is not the case in capitalism
when it comes to competiton it can still happen with state or mixed ownership of capital. Chinese car companies are perfect example of that.
what they would do is tell different local municipalities to start their own electric car companies. this led to 2010s China having about a hundred small car companies, all of them substitized by state, most of them wildly inefficient. what they did after was to make them to start competing with each other - the efficient ones "ate" inefficient ones.
now china has the most modern electric car industry in the world with vast majority of it being state owned, its so efficient that in many places its profitable to import them even with 100% tariff in place.
Also im Polish with VPN
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